Jaime’s answer to Bronn, was maybe for family, and then the end scene with Theon with no dick fighting to regain the loyalty of his people and save his sister.
Hearken back to the wise words of Tywin Lannister. Cersei is quite clever, but she’s not smart. Never has been, never will be.
Well said. Littlefinger was one of my favorite characters - unlike Cersei he was both smart AND clever. But he erred fatally with Sansa by giving her to the Boltons, after which point any attempt to work her was going to be exponentially more difficult to say the least. Once she was in the position of relatively greater power his machinations just sealed his fate. If he had been wiser he would have retreated to the Vale the second Jon Snow left her in charge or alternatively stayed quiet and cryptic. But as Dale Sams put it, he just can’t resist trying to kick over every lego set he sees.
I could easily see the timeline being that Ned and Howland Reed with baby Jon go directly back to the North without seeking out any of their allies in Robert’s Rebellion, who would have had their hands full establishing Robert as King, rewarding the ones who had fought for them and punishing the ones who had been on the other side, putting down the last flare-ups of resistance, and rebuilding a war-torn country. By the time word filtered down South that Ned had a bastard son, enough time could have passed that people’s minds wouldn’t automatically go to his sister’s death. Everyone would have been dealing with their own chaotic situations without devoting much thought to some bastard child, one of more than a few conceived in the upheaval of war.
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Why a sunken ship? Harbors have large chains all over the place. If there was a ship docked there, it would have anchor chains attached to pylons on shore. Even if it was sunk, the chains would still be attached to the shore. For that matter, there could be chains in warehouses, chains being repaired in shops, whatever. Big ports have big chains around.
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Hardhome wasn’t a “seaport that hosted large ships.” Although it was the closest thing to a town Beyond the Wall, it was basically a small fishing village inhabited by wildlings. It had two small piers for little fishing boats. It wasn’t a place where large ships with monstrously huge anchor chains like the ones we saw would dock. It didn’t have warehouses or shops.
And the Army of the Dead wasn’t “recently” at Hardhome. They destroyed it two full seasons ago. It’s taken them all this time to march down to Eastwatch. How long do you think it would take them to drag four giant chains down from there once they decided they would need them? Or have they been dragging them along for the last couple of years on the off chance a dragon might fall into a lake?
There may be some way to fanwank where the chains came from, but Hardhome ain’t it.
They are. Several of them showed off their fancy moves during the attack on the Loot Train.
I did really enjoy the episode, including the blue plasma-breathing dragon near the end. Less clear is how you work a plot around a guy who can literally keep track of everything happening, including Cersei’s fake deal. I wish in retrospect they’d made Bran’s abilities more draining on him.
Meanwhile…what kinds of mischief can Arya get up to with Petyr’s face?
Except I think Jaime’s sense of honor means he won’t tell Dany and Jon what Cersei is intending. Still, if he shows up alone, they’ll figure out on their own that she’s not backing them. If Jaime wanted to, he could get many of the Lannister soldiers to join him when he goes north. They respect him enough to do so, even if that’s not what Cersei wanted.
Bran doesn’t seem to just “know” everything. He has to specifically look. As for events currently happening, he seems to only know them if he wargs into the ravens to see.
Has it been shown that Bran can use the Heart trees to see? I can’t remember. Not that there are any in the south.
The wights are fast or slow depending on the dramatic needs of the scene. The ones that attacked Bran’s party and when Jojen was killed were extremely fast. They were very fast at the Battle of Hardhome. But if you need some dramatic tension they will trudge along like Romero zombies.
silenus, could you please use spoiler boxes for actual spoiler content? You did this in the last thread.
If they do it my way, you’ll thank me! 
You’re criticizing him for using a spoiler box in an (obvious) parody? I don’t understand why joke-hiding something that does not need to be spoiler-boxed is a problem? Have I been whooshed?
I’m not sure what line divides the present from the past, but if he knows Littlefinger’s private comments to Ned Stark, he can know Cersei’s confession to Jaime.
Yes. He used it for just speculation in the last thread, and didn’t offer any hint as to what’s in it. Here’s the post. Read on a little, and he offers a little bit of mea culpa.
On it’s own? It’s not a problem. But his pattern of not knowing when to use them can be.
Edit: And that’s all I really care to talk about it. If you’d like a more thorough conversation, feel free to open an ATMB thread on the subject.
I use them for anything other than straight analysis of aired episodes because there are people in these threads who go abso-fucking-lutely apeshit at anything they consider spoilery, including the date an episode will air and who wrote the music. If you don’t like my caution, put me on “Ignore.”
I would take moderation that I didn’t understand to ATMB, not this. If you don’t care to explain why you think what he did is a problem (it’s not self-evident), then your comment is likely to be ignored.
The key is to be very very clear why something is in a spoiler box. Compare the following three posts (which use a TOTALLY HYPOTHETICAL MADE UP EXAMPLE, there is NO REAL INFORMATION AT ALL IN THESE FAKE EXAMPLES):
Post #1:
Hey guys, I just realized that if you freezeframe on one of the pages of the manuscript that Sam is reading, it literally spells out that Arya is going to die in Season 8 episode 1!
Post #2:
Hey guys,
I just realized that if you freezeframe on one of the pages of the manuscript that Sam is reading, it literally spells out that Arya is going to die in Season 8 episode 1!
Post #3:
Hey guys,
(spoilered because of information found in a freeze frame which might give away major plot elements from Season 8)
I just realized that if you freezeframe on one of the pages of the manuscript that Sam is reading, it literally spells out that Arya is going to die in Season 8 episode 1!
Post #1 is being a dick by not using spoiler boxes. Post #2 is being a dick by just leaving a spoiler box there with no context. Should I open it? What’s in it? I dunno, so I won’t open it no matter what, because even if I’m someone who would want to know about this freeze frame, for all I know the spoiler box contains leaked information from next season’s scripts, which I would not want to see. Post #3 is absolutely the way to go.
That said, while I think that spoiler boxes are generally easy and straightforward, I do agree that personal speculation is one of the trickiest-to-define edge cases. If we’re just shooting the shit about who’s likely to end up on the iron throne, and you think it will be Sansa, just based on your own speculation, even I (generally a spoiler nazi) see no reason to spoiler that. On the other hand, if you have a crazy idea about a super insane novel twist that might happen near the end of the show, posting it unspoiled is a bit like saying, out loud, “oh, damn, I wonder if he’s been dead all along” in a movie theater. Even if it’s honestly just a guess, it’s a guess which can’t be unheard, and which totally alters someone’s experience of the artistic work in question.
Thanks, that’s helpful.
I didn’t think silenus’ post in this thread fell into either of your “being a dick” categories. It was (to me) very obvious that it was a joke (there’s even a smiley), and that it was parody-spoilering of preposterous things that obviously aren’t really going to happen.
But I guess there’s sensitivity from prior threads, and perhaps avoidance of all doubt (at the expense of some humor) is the only way to keep everyone happy. I do agree that complete failure to indicate what’s going to be inside a spoiler box is frustrating.
Where is the dragon pit where they all met? Right outside the city walls?
She could tell him about the time she almost got eaten by a bear. He will be very excited until he learns that she is not being euphemistic but was almost devoured.
The 7 kingdoms is a long-obsolete name. There are 9 provinces currently - the Riverlands and Iron Islands were 1 of the kingdoms, and the Crownlands (geographically small) were carved out by Aegon.
I thought that was pretty important. He has a limited omniscience. He doesn’t know the last time you pooped unless he cares to look.