Game of Thrones 7.07 "The Dragon and the Wolf" 8/27/17

The Night King was made from a living man.

Some of the White Walkers were made from Craster’s abandoned baby sons. At least one that we saw, with others strongly implied.

Other WWs were - I’m guessing - made from captives.

So it seems that if you’re living, you can be turned into a WW, if you’re dead you can only become a Wight.

Viserion, therefore, is a Wight.

What I don’t get is how they attached the chains to the dragon, given that they can’t swim/cross water (otherwise a boat, or just swim seems necessary).

Robyn is one of the game of thrones missing, including: Wolf, Edmund (a discussion video had Edmund possibly in one of the Lannister burning wagons from the battle, since he’s not in Casterly rock or the Twins) all have not appeared in this season at all…

Who is Wolf?

Even assuming that Jon was right that they can’t swim, I think this is as easy as wights grabbing the chain and jumping in the water, sinking, then attaching the chains to Viserion. They’re already dead, so surely drowning isn’t a concern. Maybe they can’t get back up again out of the water, unless they grab onto Viserion as he’s dragged up, but it’s not like there’s a shortage of wights around.

There was one in Kings Landing. It is where Ser Dontos used to meet with Sansa.

There’s no proof she had another kid at all. I just thought she was lying about it to Cat to show sympathy.

Things which don’t exist differ from the show here. Things are getting mixed up. Night king is not a member of the watch because that was formed after the white walkers had been beaten and the wall built.

Doh! Yeah, Ghost…

Robert was the reason why the kidnap/rape story was kept a lie. To protect Jon Snow from killing off:

  1. Last targs and threat to him being king.
  2. His beloved’s “bastard” son.

I thought the sign of a White Walker was the glowing eyes. Do the wight’s have these?

In which case the Dragon is a White Walker. Which means he wasn’t dead. Or something.

Or just another plothole to add to the pile. It’s as if they sacked the one who was supposed to point these out… Don’t they normally employ people to do that?

No. She mentions the same child later to Robert. At about 5:20.

Robert didn’t know that Lyanna eloped with Rhaegar willingly, but more importantly, he didn’t care. She was property that Robert was promised by her previous owner Rickard Stark, and Rhaegar took her from him. Whether she was raped or ran off because she loved Rhaegar didn’t matter to Robert, and didn’t matter to anyone else in their patriarchal society either. The question of Lyanna’s motivations never came up because no one cared about the answer. (Except for Ned, I guess. And now Bran, Sam, and probably, soon, Jon.)

Yes, Wights also have glowing blue eyes. No, not a plot hole.

Considering that everyone talked about the situation in terms of it being against her will, rape, etc, I think the idea that it was only about property is flawed.

AK84, huh. Continuity error? Showrunners throw that story in the first season without realizing it screws up the prophecy they introduce in season 4(? 5?)

Society comments aside, I really do believe Robert actually loved her, and didn’t just see her as property. Just based on how he talked about her:

Here’s the actor who plays Bran on the NK=Bran theory: 'Game of Thrones' Actor on Bran Stark, Night King Theory

Possible, but I kind of doubt it. We didn’t see her do anything to find and protect him when Joffrey did his kill-all-Robert’s-bastards thang.

That makes sense. I also doubt that Jon really knows what he’s talking about - we saw wights fail to jump into the water at Hardhome and on the frozen lake, but that might just be because the NK ordered them not to. Jon, Dany & Co. could be in for a nasty surprise when the NK someday tells his undead mooks to get wet.

The Night King and the Night’s King are quite often lumped together, but they reside exclusively within different media.

Possibly. And it might also be a hint for the audience to not put too much stock into prophecies; there’s still a chance that they are similar to ours: guesses of the prophet, motivations for the addressee - and isn’t this state of affairs a more satisfying precondition for watching a tale about people?

It’s far more interesting if Cersei is the architect of a self-fulfilling prophecy and not the victim of an inescapable fate.

Though plenty of people prefer the narrative tradition of the Iliad to the Odyssey.

I think it’s safe to say that we’re only referring to the one who appeared on the TV series.

So the Night’s King is the leader of the White Walkers – does that make Uncle Benjen the Night Ranger?