What does that have to do with her planning to invade Westeros?
It’s not her destiny to slum around the Dothraki Sea.
Robert rebelled against Aerys Targaryen and took the Iron Throne. Was Robert evil?
Robert is a bad person, yes. He also started a war because he thought his betrothed was kidnapped and raped. I’ll leave the murdering that Aerys did out of the equation for now.
You’re arguing fighting against a, believed, rapist is equivalent to starting a war because you think it’s your destiny? Frankly that sounds like Nazi Germany.
You seem to be forgetting the part where Aerys executed Ned’s father and brother and demanded his head and Robert’s head.
Sure didn’t. What makes you think that?
Your claim that Robert started the war over Lyanna. It was Brandon Stark who rode to King’s Landing looking for Rhaegar.
Sure did.
I get the feeling Robert’s pride played far more a part in his actions than his loss of Lyanna. He’s a little too psycho-stalker over someone who apparantly wasn’t that into him in the first place; there has to be some other reason he pushed it all so hard.
Besides, Robert (and whomever comes after on the throne) WILL try to kill Danerys. So, yes, she has to.
Snarky, you’re obviously trying to prove a point here. Just come out and say it instead of playing games.
-Joe
I already said it. She has no reason to invade Westeros.
No, Robert only wanted to kill her because he’s obsessed. You think Tywin would consider buying a faceless man for some broad just living her life overseas? Or Robb? Or Stannis?
She’s clearly not doing it in self defense. She says so.
BTW, I haven’t seen it mentioned, but regarding Hodor…um…yeah.
I mean…no.
That’s not at all how I pictured him, and unless I really just read things wrong <I do that a lot>, Hodor was both younger and more like a strapping man than the older guy they have playing him.
Anyone else think that? I can’t see the warrior woman <one of Robb’s group? The half-ears or somewhat>…Anyway, one of the women essentially comments that he’s worth bedding; unless the guy they have now cleans up really well, I just don’t see it.
I don’t think the rebellion can be blamed solely on Robert’s reaction to Lyanna’s “kidnapping.” From what I remember, resentment had been festering for some time. It was a bunch of stuff that pushed everything over the edge. Robert’s rage over Rhaegar kidnapping Lyanna was just the proverbial straw.
As for Dany. I don’t think she HAS to invade Westeros - as Snarky pointed out, she could very well live out her days across the sea. But she’s been brought up with the idea that Westeros belongs to her by birthright. She believes it’s her destiny to take it back, and the prophecies seem to point towards this as well (although of course, prophecies can be tricky). I think she believes that Westeros needs to be rescued by her (which at this point, maybe it does). So I think her motivations are a mixture of pride and good intentions.
I’m looking forward to reading about her in the next book.
I thought they cast Hodor very well.
If they warrior woman you are referring to is Osha, she mentions that Hodor looks like he has giant’s blood in him; being a wildling, she’s seen giants north of the Wall. He also has an enormous schlong.
Yes, that’s the one. I still expected him to be much younger, more…well, strapping is the only word that fits. 
Obviously he’s strong, and this guy can carry off strong, I am sure. But I’m not sure he can pull off ‘effortlessly strong’, which is something I associate with Hodor. But whatever; I am sure it will all come out in the wash.
He didn’t look how I’d pictured either. I guess the big question is this - is he Old Nan’s son or grandson? I thought it was grandson, but looking at him I’m thinking more son.
Wasn’t he kind of going grey on the show?
And I can’t let this sit. “I’ll leave the murdering that Aerys did out of the equation for now.”
Yeah, because that certainly didn’t have an impact on the massive revolution that followed. Starting to slaughter high lords indiscriminately is kind of the quickest way to get a revolution started. Start killing the guys that have access to troops. I’m sure the others won’t immediately start wondering when it’ll be their turn.
-Joe
I left that out because it weakens your comparison and I thought that Lyana was enough to weaken already. I didn’t say it wasn’t a factor in the rebellion.
You made the comparison between Dany’s conquest and Robert’s. Dany has no reason other than she wants to. Robert had several reasons. Lyana being kidnapped is enough, even without going into the fact that Aerys was insane and a murderer.
She’s the rightful heiress to the Iron Throne.
RE: Hodor again: Browsing quickly around, people seem completely confuzzled as to why he keeps saying ‘Hodor’. Nan has laughed that his real name is Walder; doesn’t ‘Hodor’ seem like a kid’s <or simpleton’s> way of trying to say ‘Walder’? It seemed so obvious to me I never questioned it, but it seems I’m the only one who has thought this.
Anyone else?
Only if you disregard the right of conquest. If you do that the targaryens are usurpers anyway. It’s debatable anyway. Jon is probably ahead. Robert might have been ahead anyway due to being a male with targ heritage.
Also has nothing to do with your comparison to Robert.