I think you need to actually treat the body and remove the face to do that. They only got his bones.
I disagree. Jaqon used Aryas face while she was alive…maaaaagiccccc
Yeah, add that to the list of incosistent plot points regarding the faceless men, since they obviously take in and prepare bodies to use their faces in some instances, at one point we’re even showing a face being carved off. It doesn’t make sense that they can impersonate a live person. That whole storyline was a huge mess.
I agree with you. But i did note how Arya was saying “They got Neds face wrong, but we know it.”
So if they don’t do my idea, I can handwave what Jaqen did because Arya had been drugged at that point I believe.
So they snuck in that Rheagar annulled Ella and married Lyana thing really quickly into the reading of the old parchment scenes.
Yea, book readers have been arguing over Rheagar’s and Ella’s relationship for over 20 years and those cheeky bastards running GOT revealed it in a throw away line.
Did they ever show Sam teaching Gilly to read? Or has the wildling girl become maester material through osmosis?
Do you really want more Samwell and Gilly scenes? C’mon, use your imagination.
Shireen taught Gilly to read when they were both at Castle Black.
I do.
I’m not sure I understand how Jaime betrayed Cersei. As far as he knew he went to practice sparring with Bronn and up pops Tyrion… and they know now Tyrion didn’t kill Joffrey (I don’t care if she refuses to admit it). He IMMEDIATELY went and told Cersei. So what was the betrayal? I think it was supposed to make sense in-universe, but it doesn’t as a critical viewer. TV Cersei doesn’t give two shits about dead Tywin, especially because dead Tywin somehow ends up making her queen.
Earlier in this thread I said I knew Rhaegar and Lyanna were married in my head-canon, but having it semi-validated last night doesn’t mean it’s any more real than it was yesterday morning. Stoneheart. Patchface. Jon Connington. F/Aegon. Penny. How many children does Scarlett O’Hara have? Things drift. They might get SOME of the major points, but it’s not like it’s been a completely faithful adaptation. Will a bunch of rag tag kneelers go beyond the wall to capture a wight? Mayhaps. It’s almost certainly not those seven, especially because Beric’s dead dead, iirc. I thought book-Dickon was still just a little kid, so I doubt Dany would flash fry him too. Whatever Sam’s up to in the Citadel is going to have a lot more Martell involvement.
So these alleged confirmations are interesting fuel for my head-canon, but there’s too many major changes to say for certain which of these events really will book-happen as they do in tv land. If they’ve taken this many liberties with the books as reference points, they can’t be super faithful to books not even written yet.
I only watch the show for these book insights and because I’d rather find out along with everyone else, even though there isn’t going to be 100% accuracy. I haven’t enjoyed it for several seasons. If the books were to drop tomorrow, I’d stop watching. However, I like this season much more than the last couple.
As of tonight’s (S7E6) episode:
Kinda interesting to lose one of the dragons after we had “the dragon must have three heads” and “three dragons must = three riders right?” in our heads for so long. Lots of guesses as to who the other riders would be (Jon and Tyrion being the common guess). Looks like Tyrion won’t get to ride one in the show, at least.
Part of me really doubts George envisioned it this way but who knows at this point. On the other hand we’ve had a lot of other stuff that likely won’t happen this way (Jaime hasn’t rejected Cersei yet, Beric is still alive, etc.)
Interesting:
GRRM has explicitly denied that Coldhands = Benjen. That doesn’t mean that he hasn’t changed his mind, but at one point they weren’t the same.
In tonight’s episode recap, they explicitly call him Coldhands, several times, and as far as I know this is the first time they’ve done so.
Don’t know if it bodes anything for the books. Just interesting.
When? AFAIK, he is never called anything but “Uncle Benjen”.
“In the episode recap.”
I’m 95% sure they called him Coldhands in the recaps last season too. That doesn’t mean anything for the books though, that’s just a change for the show, IMO.
I do think at this point that the books and the show will be dramatically different. They’ll hit the high points (Jon dies and comes back, Daenerys will take Dragonstone, Jon will come to persuade her to call an armistice to fight the Others, Viserion dies and becomes Ice Dragon, etc.) but how they get there I’d imagine will be very, very different - especially when you consider the major plots that the show hasn’t even touched (Lady Stoneheart, Aegon, real Dorne, etc).
I think in the books one of the dragons becoming a zombie dragon makes sense. Even though it’s not ASOIAF, he did write a story called The Ice Dragon. It seems like the kind of germ of an idea that would take root deeply.
Plus the dragons have to be on opposing sides at some point, or otherwise why did we get The Princess and the Queen? I mean, that was great at the game of thrones and a history of Targs, but the dragons were the real foreshadowing, I’ve always thought.
I don’t know that it will happen as shown, but I don’t think it’s 100% wrong, like Arya bullying Sansa doesn’t seem likely.
I was half watching parts of it, but did like one hit on an Other kill its wights? That’s VERY Wheel of Time Myrdraal/Trolloc linking.
The show is going with Jon’s real name being Aegon. Does that give hints as to the fate of fake Aegon in the books? Will he end up being a bigger player that people are expecting, or is it just an easy Targaryen name to give Jon?
Well it wouldn’t be the first time they merged 2 (or more) book characters into one.