I wonder if anyone’s going to start wondering why Jorah suspected the wine seller.
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Khal Drogo absolutely damned well nailed his rant scene.
Season highlight for me so far, closely followed by the intense chat between Robert and Cersei.
I don’t think anyone has to suspect anything about Jorah; it seemed reasonable that he was suspicious of the wine seller.
That’s not quite the way I interpreted it. My view is that Jorah intentionally provided the intel that Dany had married Khal Drago and was with child, knowing that assassins would be sent. He knew all Khal needed was a little prodding to decide to invade the 7 Kingdoms, and the attempted assassination of his wife and unborn son certainly fit the bill. At the same time, he gets to ingratiate himself to Khal by being the one who saved them from the poisoning.
He’s playing both sides. If it weren’t for him, there never would have even been an attempted assassination. So, while he may or may not somewhat care for Dany, preventing the assassination was just part of his plan, not something he decided on the spot.
I think Jorah cozied up to Dany and Drago because he had no better options. He then saw a way to get back in good with his homeland and spied on the Doraki. But as time went on he grew to appreciate them and to really dig Dany. You could see his respect for her grow as time went by. The clincher for me was the exchange he had with Golden Head when he tried to steal the dragon eggs.
“Does loyalty mean nothing to you?”
“It means everything to me.”
“Yet here you stand!”
“Yet here I stand.”
I mostly agree.
That was a great scene too.
My take on the Jorah/wine seller business is different from everyone else’s apparently… (I’ve read the book several times, but not recently enough to clearly remember the details of that section).
I think Jorah was supposed to get the message “you’re pardoned” only after the presumed assassination took place, or at least, was effectively fait accompli. When he got the message he realized “that would only happen if she were being assassinated”, which suddenly put him on his guard more than he otherwise would be.
I think that’s pretty much in line with what people here think. Jorah’s in touch with the people that caused the attempt. He’s aware it’s going to happen, so a sketchy guy trying to give her his special cask of wine is suspicious. I don’t think he knew for sure until the guy bolted though.
That scene between Tywin and Jaime is a real gem. Jaime starts off his usual insouciant self and you can see him smirking when Tywin says that Lannisters don’t act like fools (a nod to the first episode). However Tywin knows his son inside-out and knows how to push his buttons. First he gets inside his head :“Go on, say something clever”. Then he flatters him and finally he invokes family loyalty and tells Jaime that he needs him. At the end Jaime is visibly moved. In the final shot it’s almost as if Tywin is admiring his own work. Of course it only works because Tywin is completely sincere about devotion to family and genuinely respects his son. It’s a wonderful scene, beautifully written and acted.
Plus, I got the impression that Jaime really intends to honor his father’s wishes, but will forget them the moment something comes along to piss him off.
“Cat, if I hadn’t put a knife to his throat, the guards there would’ve killed him instantly. I bought him time.”
See? Simple, plausible, and in-line with how he’s been manipulating things so far.
Catelyn: “Are you talking about the guards you pay? The guards you obviously control? [see ep 2, “Lord Snow”] Those guards?”
Littlefinger becomes suddenly aware that Cat’s hands are playing with a noose ..
I tend to agree. And the actor who’s playing Jorah is really very good, I think; a relatively small role but he’s doing a fine job with it.
Word – I thought Jorah was a creep in the books, but I’m really liking him now. I also find Iain Glen very attractive in this role. He was Hamlet in Rosencratz and Guildenstern Are Dead and didn’t do anything for me at the time, but he’s somehow much more attractive as an older man.
For the same reason we all suspected him? Because he was shady as hell?
IMO. from what we’ve seen of him so far, he hasn’t appeared to be shady at all until this assassination thing. His background was, er, murky, but his behavior hasn’t been.
I believe msmith537 is talking about the super sketchy wine seller being shady.
You have to remember that part of Jorah’s job is to be Danny’s protector (sort of) and it’s reasonable to have someone in Danny’s position not just accept free gifts of wine off the street from strangers without a taste test first. Particularly when they go to get a special batch that they aren’t letting anyone else touch because they just found out who you are.
Even if Jorah hadn’t suspected anything, it would have been a good idea.
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That’s a bit unfair. We, the viewing audience, suspected him because (a) we knew there was an assassination attempt underway, and (b) the camera settled on him, and Dany’s interaction with him, as opposed to any of the many other merchants she presumably did business with in the market. Even an intelligent and well made and unpredictable show like this one is a bit unlikely to show an entire scene of “queen buying wine, nothing goes wrong, she pays for it and leaves”.