Gilmore Girls 10/24

And we can talk about last week’s show too, since we didn’t have a thread for it (at least, not one I could find.)

So Lorelei and Christopher have their first big fight of this latest incarnation of their romance, but it’s all resolved in the end and they make up. And blow off Emily at the same time, which is good.

Logan pops across the Atlantic for a 26 hour visit, and Rory gets insanely jealous when she meets one of his co-workers, Bobbie the British hottie (“who has the amazing ability to stand on a moments notice.”) Even though her and Logan spent the prevuious night doing the nasty on the apartment’s rooftop.

And at the FND, Lorelei breaks out her pictures of Emily in jail from last week. A good time is had by all, except of course for Emily.

Eh, the show either needs to find ways to bring it back into Stars Hollow proper or drop it. Stinky pickle smell? Not good enough. I think the last Stars Hollow plot that was funny enough to work through an episode was the old timey street renaming episode from 2 seasons ago.

I like that Rory acknowledged that she has issues. That was a good step.

I didn’t get what exactly was the problem with Gigi going to France was. And I don’t see how the solution was Chris inviting Lorelai to go with them.

I think the problem with Gigi going to France (from Lorelai’s perspective) was that Chris was going to send her *without * him. He’s the only parent she knows, and that would be terrifying for her. Lorelai has no problem with Gigi going to France, she just thinks that Chris should go with her, at least to get her settled in.

As for Lorelai going too, I don’t think that has anything to do with solving the Gigi/Sherry problem. That’s just because he realizes he has to go, and wants her with him.

I’m kind of loving the Lorelai/Chris thing. They *get * each other. And I thought that last scene in the car was adorable.

I liked how Lorelei was shocked that Christopher was telling her about Sherrie’s letter and Gigi’s trip right away. I turned to my GF and asked, “Did Lorelei just dis Luke?”

I have said the same thing to a woman that Chris said to Lorelei in the bathroom: “Thank you for telling me how I feel.” So I connected even more with his character right there. (Now all I need is to inherit millions, and I’ll be Christopher.)

So, anyone else surprised that Rory didn’t ask Logan about the silver rocket?

Well, yes, it was great and all anti-Luke-like for Chris to show her Sherry’s letter. I don’t think, however, that she is acknowledging the many things that she hid from Luke.

I’m just bitter because I liked her and Luke together. I also think that Sookie prefers her and Luke together.

Was it last week that Rory met those girls at the art gallery opening? What was the point of that storyline?

It sounded to me like the new producers/writing team dising last years plotline. I thought it was funny. I also think that they wanted to prempt people from thinking that Chris and Lorelei’s argument was retread of Luke/Lorelei.

Rory needs new friends?
Rory should have a life outside of her mother, the paper, and waiting for Logan’s phone and booty calls?
The new production team has some friends/ingenues that need acting credits?
I think any of these explanations are equally llikely.

Don’t know what you’ve been smoking, but I started last week’s thread, and I clearly remember you responding to it. :dubious: Whatever it is, give me some. :smiley:

Anyway, this week’s episode.

I found it a little weak, once again.

I don’t know what it is, perhaps Rory being whiny and pampered, or just the way her little beady eyes look when she doesn’t get her way, but I’m really disliking her character. So she thought the celebration of Logan’s contract was supposed to be more private than it really was, did she really have to sit through the dinner sulking? Instead of acting like a bratty little kid who can’t get her way, sitting there and pouting and pouting and pouting, why not just join the fun and eat and laugh and share with Logan’s collegues? I suppose it’s just the way the writers write her scenes, but geeez, senior year in Yale and she can’t even figure out that being nice to people will get her further than sitting and sulking, even if she doesn’t need “connections”, since Richard and Emily will provide her with plenty. I swear, Rory is becoming more and more like Emily every day, with being condescending, abrupt and her “holier than thou” attitude.

I still don’t like Chris as a person, although I like Lorelai and Chris together. The whole Sheri-Gigi-Letter-Paris was too contrived, IMO. Lorelai dealing with Chris and Gigi was a little too soon after breaking up with Luke over Anna.

Well, yes to all of that. I guess I just found the two artsy girls to be extremely contrived.

I agree with Sad and Deranged that the Sherri/Gigi/letter thing was too much too soon. I also think it would have been better to just let Lorelai have some time alone, rather than having her jump into a relationship again.

But, heck, she’s a fictional character and I’m not going to get worked up over it.

Oh you mean that thread about last week’s show.
what the hell are they putting in the coffee here?

Not something addressed by the show, but my evil lawyer hat was majorly buzzing there.
You send your minor child to a foreign country to visit for months with your estranged ex, and I’m thinking there’s a damn good chance that the kid is never coming back. What’s to stop Sherri from claiming/filing for custody in a French court? Sure, Christopher has a good chance of winning a legal fight, but who knows what French laws on the subject are, not to mention that in custody disputes the courts have a real bias towards the parent who actually lives in the jurisdiction of the court.

Sua

I know the basic premise of the show and I’ve caught the odd episode here and there, and probably almost all of the last 2 or three seasons. That was enough to go by when Christopher would show up now and then in the past, but now that he and Lorelei having this big budding romance thing going I need to know more! What’s the back story for Chris, and how was he developed over the first few seasons? When Lorelei got pregnant did he skip town, or did she? What’s the scoop?

From what I remember:

Chris and Lorelai were high school sweethearts, Lorelai got pregnant just before her debaunte ball. She and Chris talked about getting married, their parents really wanted them to get married, and arrangements would have been made for the baby, whatever that would have been. Lorelai had Rory while she was still living with her parents, but a short time after giving birth, she realised that she wasn’t doing Rory any favours by letting her parents “help out” with the parenting, so she ran away from home with Rory in tow, and ended up in a little shack in Stars Hollow. It seems like it was Lorelai who ran away from the prospect of marriage to Christopher, because she was young and reckless, and knew she had a lot of growing up to do before making a commitment. After she ran away, Chris wasn’t a big part of Lorelai and Rory’s life either. I suppose he was pissed off that Lorelai ran away without consulting him, plus the fact that he was also young and reckless, and quite unpredictable, that he also didn’t spend a lot of time with Rory. Phone calls here and there, but Rory never actually got a chance to live with him and bond with him like many children do with their fathers.

Sua and I have the same brand of “evil lawyer hat.” Those were my thoughts as well.

Also, didn’t we do that before? Logan inviting her somewhere and having other people around? That seems, um, vaguely familiar.

but it does work for her. It always has (because it’s written that way), so why not sulk and whine. She’ll get her way. She always does.

One of the things the show does well is that Lorelei and Rory are both in many ways exactly like Emily. They just don’t notice it.

jackdavinci, in short Lorelei & Chris were together as teenagers - he comes from a family that’s in the same social strata as the Gilmores. Lorelei got pregnant. Chris proposed (because that’s what you’re “supposed to do”). Lorelei skipped town (to Stars Hollow, which isn’t very far away, but still skipped.) Chris didn’t follow and became the kind of ne’er do well that you can become when your parents have money.

Then, there’s some vagueness about the years where Rory was a few months old to when she was a sophomore in HS (when the show started).

No one in Stars Hollow saw Chris until that year - but apparently Rory had had some contact with him from time to time. She never saw her paternal grandparents (nor had they seen her) until she was in HS. (The Loreleis’ contact with Emily and Richard is similarly weird for those years - they didn’t know where the Loreleis were at first (not clear when they found out). The grandparents had never gone to Stars Hollow until the show started. Apparently, there were a few holiday dinners at the Gilmore House. But that might have been the only contact or maybe not. It was definitely an estranged relationship - but who knows how estranged.) Anyway, Chris finally pulled himself together enough to become a semi-reliable-ish adult-figure in Rory’s life, and showed up again with girlfriend (Sherri). Then he and Sherri started to have problems, it begins to look like the death of that relationship, he and Lorelei get together, start thinking “maybe,” when Sherri ends up pregnant with Gigi. Gigi’s born. Sherri decides marriage and motherhood aren’t for her and heads to France.

Chris was very much a Disneyland dad. Not around alot but when he did show up (probably once or twice yearly) it was all about having as much fun and buying as much stuff for Rory as possible.

In the pilot, when Lorelei shows up at her parents, they both say something like, “Is it Easter already?” I took that as Lorelei and Rory only come by for major holiday dinners. I’m sure that Richard and emily knoew where they lived, but that Lorelei refused any financial assistance from them. People of their resources could easily find where their daughter and granddaughter are, especially if they only live 20 minutes away.

Rory had tried to have some kind of relationship with Christopher over the years, but until the last couple of years, he was incredibly unreliable. There have been many references over the years to this in the show. But then he married Sherrie, and fathered Gigi, and became more stable and available to Rory. After Sherrie left and Christopher’s grandfather (?) left him the millions, he decided that it was time for him to act like Rory’s father like he should have been doing over the years.

IIRC, Gigi is a toddler, and her mother ran out when she was even younger. Essentially, to the toddler, her mother is a complete stranger and her daddy is almost the entire world. Nanny or not, there is no way anyone I know would send their toddler to France unaccompanied to meet a near stranger. If he wanted her to reconnect with her mother, he should have been the one to take her.