Giulaini Search Warrant Question

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Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

That’s the more limited CT. The real CT goes far beyond that. The real CT is that all 63 million people who voted for Trump were all being blackmailed by Russia (via hacks of gmail, yahoo, and all other hacks of anyone by anyone over the last 10 years). It’s the only rational explanation for his victory …

Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

The thing is that there’s zero reason to think it had anything to do with Russia. It’s not like it looks Russia-related and the guy being raided is saying “Nope! Nothing to do with Russia here! …”, as you suggest. The only people bringing up Russia are in this thread. (The guy being raided is probably not a poster to this MB :)). Even aside from that, I don’t know that the guy would have much incentive to attribute the raid to one cause versus another. Especially as the truth will come out anyw…

Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

That’s the problem with these types of allegations. If you’re treating a business deal involving a “onetime partner” as a Trump contact with the Russians, then there’s no limit. Trump must have had hundreds of partners in his various business deals over the years, and each of these “onetime partners” has any number of other business ventures. It’s inevitable that you can find this type of link to Russian banks (or German, British, French etc. banks). This is all nothing. But hey, do you know …

Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

Possibilities include 1) he was unaware of it, and 2) that he didn’t consider a Russian lawyer whose clients included a state-owned business to be a Russian government official. Or 3) that he lied about it. But the first 2 are in play as well. Assuming that they’re lying about it, it’s not hard to understand either. They are being hounded about every contact with any sort of Russian person, and think they’re being persecuted unfairly. Denying things that are likely to come out anyway is not th…

Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

Ah, the old “we’re just defending ourselves against those guys” line … [Our guy] trying to uncover [their guy’s] dealings with Russia = good. [Their guy] trying to uncover [our guy’s] dealings with Russia = bad. Works for True Believers. Not for me.

Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

No. I’m asserting that - based on the Politico article - there’s nothing to indicate that DNC was merely trying to discover Trump’s efforts to collude with the Russians to win the election. If you’ve seen anything there which indicates otherwise, let me know what that might be. [After the focus of Russian election tampering came to the forefront, it’s easy to conflate any concern about Russian ties with election collusion, but that was not the case at the time the DNC was digging for stuff on…

I can’t imagine how I got the impression you were arguing vociferously in the moment that collusion was untrue.