If there is a doctor, protecting Mental Guy makes the most sense.
The jailer can protect the claimed mason.
Then the Scum can shoot into the dark and maybe hit the doctor or the jailer or the Vig or one of the other Masons (5 out of 12) or a vanilla (7 out of 12)
Unfortunately, only the doctor and the Scum will know if there is a doctor or not. The jailer won’t know that.
However, if I were a gambling man, I’d say there is a very limited chance that the Scum would have avoided trying to find their sleeper. And without a claim of getting the message, that means it seems very likely we have a doctor.
The more I think about it the more I like the Mass Vanilla Claim. It will also force scum to choose whether or not to hide in the Vanilla Pool. Based on the number of Vanilla Claims we will know how many scum are in the Vanilla Pool. The only fuzzy factor is the sleepers. If they haven’t been activated that will throw off the numbers, but we will be able to sort that out eventually.
But then let’s think this through to what will happen next. Every lynch will be a matter Claim versus Claim. At the very least, it will be interesting. Of course even if we don’t mass vanilla claim, every lynch should degenerate to claim versus claim because scum will know that they can’t claim vanilla. We’ll lynch anyone who claims vanilla under the noose. Hmmm.
Only if scum felt desperate.
Suburban was there for Night One as well and scum didn’t target him.
The fact is clear to everyone, including scum, that if scum had successfully recruited Suburban, Suburban was ripe for a lynching. In that situation scum are better off trying to find a different sleeper (hey Suburban could also not be the sleeper at all).
I doubt Suburban Plankton is the activated sleeper.
He does need to die though. Just like me.
Oh and one needle in ‘the plan.’ If the sleeper is not activated, the Town Doc would need to claim upon activation to avoid being killed by the Vig. That’s sad.
I am generally against early mass claims on the grounds that I feel they are of more help to Scum than to Town.
My reference to is being “not fun” was particular to **ed’s **plan in this game. With the open setup in this game, it seemed that a successful mass claim would reduce this game to a simple numbers game, where Town lynches claimed Vanillas during the Day and the Vig kills claimed Vanillas at Night. Basically it would make it so that the only people who had a ‘game’ to play would be the Doc, the Jailer, and the Scum as they tried to outwit each other at Night, and there would be little point to the Days at all, as they would just be a matter of ticking the names off of a list.
holy crap! The day ends tomorrow? Didn’t it just start? WTF?
We may not have time to execute a mass Vanilla Claim anyway. I suppose there is no harm in trying (if we gain consensus on that). Its not actually germane to the lynch as those are separate events (in theory).
How is it suspect at all? What have I said that makes you think I was not being truthful?
It seems to me that you started by saying I should be lynched because I was the “most likely target” for recruitment, then since I pointed out that we should be lynching likely Scum, you seem to be suggesting that I was lying (and therefore likely Scum). So why is it that you are so eager to lynch me in particular?
This is two cycles where I’ve been pretty slammed. Sorry folks. I’m in the middle of switching from working nights to days for the most part. I’ll get a vote and solid thoughts down tonight (Pacific Time).
I’m feeling punchy tonight.
How about this theoretical?
Jailer jails MentalGuy.
Vig Kills me.
Doc protects me.
Then we would have proof positive of the Doc’s existence or non-existance and would be able to play the hidden Doc out Cop game to press for a win!
If I’m dead then we know the Doc doesn’t exist yet.
If I’m alive the Doc can move on to protecting the Cop and the jailer knows not to protect the Cop.
The downside is we lose Mahaloth.
Cost Benefit Analysis… go.
I wish this day was longer. Weekends suck. Now I really want to lynch Astral (it was Astral right?)
BTW, I read Red Skeezix’s request for votes as needing 2/3 of votes cast, not needing 2/3 of all players. Counting non-votes as No’s is all kinds of stupid.
Yes, that’s what I said. And exactly what about it is “suspect”?
Do you think that I was Vanilla Town when I said that, and because of it I am a likely target for recruitment? Or do you think I was Scum when I said that?
Originally you appeared to be implying the former, but if you think I am “suspect” that would seem to imply the latter…
I think that, if you were Vanilla Town when you said it, then you were a prime target for recruitment.
I also think that, if you were not Vanilla Town when you said that, you were lying.
Additionally, there was really no reason whatsoever for a Vanilla Town player to say that. Additonally, there was no reason for a vanilla Townie to tell us how good he would look if Pleonast were Scum.
Suspect things about your ‘slip’/‘claim’/‘comment’
There was no pro-Town reason for you to claim/slip/comment on your status.
There was no reason for you to comment on how good you would look if Pleo flipped Scum
There was no reason to state that you weren’t concerned about how you would look after stating how good you would look.
If you were being honest, you were a prime target for being recruited, yet they haven’t seemed to attempt to recruit you unsuccessfully.
4a. This implies that you were recruited successfully, or
4b. You were already Scum with no need to be recruited, or
4c. For whatever reason, the Scum decided to attempt to recruit elsewhere.
