I’d be happy to put those letters to music( a type he hates) I’ll record it and everything so it can be played at high volume. ( Like the heavy metal we blasted Marcos with)
I’d be willing to do much worse to him, but decorum and legalities win the day.
I’m not. Because, unfortunately, that is sometimes the only justice you can get. When people have been trying for years to get rid of someone and it fails, it makes sense to assume nothing will happen and that you should just get what you can to try and make life better. It’s why I hold no ill will for anyone who accepted settlements from Cosby or Weinstein, either.
That said, from what I’ve read, I suspect these NDAs aren’t actually binding for reporting illegal activity, and I would really like to see a damning legal precedent confirming this. Sure, fewer settlements would be tried, but maybe we’d get more justice.
MSU needs the Penn State treatment. Anybody who knew about it, or should have, has to go. Yes, it’s that simple.
Nah, they shouldn’t play back the victim impact statements in his cell all the time.
They should occasionally interrupt those in order to play back his letter complaining about the victim impact statements and the audience laughter.
I agree; one of the most horrifying aspects of this nasty mess is the number of victims (or ‘survivors,’ as they prefer) who DID come forward and tell someone about the abuse–with no results whatsoever. Nassar just kept on abusing.
“Culture of abuse” sounds about right for that entire system.
I feel like this question calls for an attempt at a factual answer. Please understand that I don’t mean to in any way to detract from the extremely justified outpouring of rage against Nassar and anyone who enabled him.
I’m not a lawyer, but, so far as I know: In the United States it is not, in general, against the law to fail to report a crime. People in certain professions are “mandated reporters” when it comes to certain crimes – e.g., a social worker, pediatrician, or school teacher may have a legal duty to report suspected child abuse. [That might apply in the Nassar case, given the nature of the crimes and the ages of the victims, but I think it would depend on who it was who had reason to suspect what was happening.] But where that sort of requirement doesn’t apply, I don’t believe you can be prosecuted for failure to report a crime. On the other hand if you help a suspect escape, or hide evidence, or lie to the police, you might be charged as an accessory to the crime that was committed (“accessory after the fact”), or with obstruction of justice. If you lie in court, you could be charged with perjury. If you refuse to answer questions when ordered to do so by a judge, you could be found in contempt of court (assuming you yourself are not on-trial, and that you aren’t someone like a spouse, lawyer, or clergy for the accused, to whom “privilege” may apply). When questioned by the police, you have a right to remain silent if you’re detained or arrested (with a few exceptions – for instance, some jurisdictions require you to give your name and address if asked), and if not detained you can simply leave. Again, I’m not a lawyer, so take this with a large grain of salt.
I should emphasize that whether or not you have a legal obligation to report a crime is a different question from whether you have a moral obligation. I would never blame the victims of sexual abuse for being afraid to report it, but for everyone else, the phrase “there’s a special place in hell” comes to mind. Moreover, even when no crime was committed, other consequences may be appropriate, such as termination of employment and the opprobrium of the public.
Also, what the law is isn’t always the same as what it should be. I’m somewhat inclined to think that for certain crimes – especially acts of violence committed against minors – that everyone ought to be treated as a mandated reporter. (I say “somewhat inclined” because I hadn’t really considered the question until now, maybe I’ll start a GD thread on it.)
Actually, I looked into it a bit more, and it turns out that contrary to what I posted above, this is already the law in a number of states.
From the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services:
Sucks to be him. 
Wow.
I know it’s customary to say more about someone’s remarks, but I’m speechless. “Wow’s” all I got.
Baby trolls are so cute and obvious, aren’t they? It’s adorable. Maybe if we give it long enough it will grow up to become an actual competent troll who goes after real challenges!
I’m fine with everything that judge said.
Wow.
I was hoping for “She’d be a lot prettier if she smiled.” Total troll fail.
Right. Because female judges should be judged on their eyebrow grooming, amiright?
:rolleyes:
Now you’ve done it.
To nobody’s surprise, President Simon resigned last night. I don’t know what she knew or when she knew it, but the system that was supposed to protect these women failed them and she was at the top of that system.
I was a little disappointed in Judge Aquilina’s behavior. I think the statement “I have just signed your death warrant” was over the top. Besides the fact the Michigan does not have the death penalty, it seemed to be celebratory in tone and I think judges should be sober and dispassionate when handing down sentences.
By all means, let the investigations dig deep and get to the bottom of everything. Everyone who knew and didn’t take action should be investigated and if need be, fired and/or prosecuted.
Didn’t the example of Ben Carson demonstrate that clearly enough?
Well said.
For over the top, it’s hard to beat this.
“…a rogue’s gallery of coaches and bureaucrats, all of whom should be driven from polite society by howling mobs.
Burn it all down. That is the calm and reasoned conclusion to which I have come as one horror story after another unspooled in the courtroom. Nobody employed in the upper echelons at USA Gymnastics, or at the United States Olympic Committee, or at Michigan State University should still have a job…Those people should come out of civil courts wearing barrels. Their descendants should be answering motions in the 22nd Century. In fact, I can argue convincingly that none of those three institutions should continue to exist in its current form.”
“Howling mobs”? Harass their descendants?
Fire and/or prosecute those guilty of coverup, yes. And NCAA sanctions of some kind might be in order.
Sadly, there’s historical precedent for a “good” doctor getting away with stuff like this for way too long.
Appropriate punishment. Inappropriate remarks.
If anyone at the top had a modicum of sense or decency, they would
Fire every single person in the USOC and USAG who at any point knew about this and failed in any way to do anything,
Ban all those people from involvement, participation, or even attendance in recognized amateur sports for life, with no chance of appeal,
Spend as much money as could be spent, and dedicate every possible resource, to finding evidence and providing it to the police so more people could be charged and sent to prison.
Obviously, the University of Michigan should be chopping off a lot of heads, too. “Burn it all down” is correct. ALL should be fired. Not a single person should remain. If that means some people who were not consciously complicit, but were just dopes, lose their jobs, then you know what? That’s just too fucking bad. You lose your job 'cause you’re a dope. Get out. Frankly, anyone who’d want to be associated with that organization now would make me very suspicious.
Quite honestly I don’t find the SI column over the top at all. It’s perfectly reasonable and there’s little, if any, hyperbole in it. The extent of the evil is difficult to overstate. Michigan’s gymnastics coach made girls sign a card of support for Nassar when the charges started? Jesus Christ. The USOC sent no one to the trial? Didn’t even want an investigation? Cowardly scum, all of them.
The #metoo movement hasn’t gone nearly far enough. There are way more Larry Nassars and they must all be destroyed, in public whenever possible, and their enablers must also be destroyed.
But they won’t do the right thing, and the stink of this horror will hang over them forever, instead of getting a clean start by doing the right thing.