Does it hurt to have your head up your rectal cavity, or have you just grown used to it over time?
The word I think you are attempting to use is haggis. And a tasty dish it is. Don’t be envious just because I used a word not common to you. It doesn’t mean I have a better vocabulary and am smarter than you. It just means you are an incredible idiot who would feel challenged in a debate with Dan Quayle.
Now, take your ritalin like a good prole, sit down, and stare mindlessly into space like you normally do when a keyboard isn’t in front of you.
So, I take it that your position is that it is defensible to make smart-ass and innacurate stereotypical remarks regarding the kind of people who need various medicines to help them deal with life?
The funny thing is that I’m dyslexic. Even when I proofread I have a tough time finding typos. He made fun of me misspelling “haggis.”
Patronizing bastard, Do you think I’m dyslexic by choice?
Do you know how demeaning it is to have somebody point out your typos?
The reality is that I don’t expect you to know or care. It’s my problem, not yours. If I felt the need to educate you, I’d start a thread to that purpose, and do so in a polite and friendly way, and I’d be appreciative of anybody who took the time to learn about my differences. That way you wouldn’t think that all dyslexics were whiny hypersensitive assholes. I would feel that this my responsibility when bringing up such a topic and I would be extra careful because I would know that it’s possible other dyslexics would be judged and dealt with in direct reponse to my actions. As a responsible and thoughtful individual I would be very careful to make sure I did not do them a disservice.
All that you have proven is that being gay doesn’t disqualify someone from being a moronic asshole.
Boo-fucking-hoo. It isn’t like I’ve seen you mention it in a post before. Next time I’ll write my post backwards and put it before a mirror so you can read it.
Nor does being heterosexual stop you from being a mindless zombie who reinterprets things so you can go on a rantfest.
Hastur picks himself up, dusts himself off and says “Aw, hell, this fair fightin’ never did work for me anyhow. Time for the cheap shot.”
Somewhere in the back of his mind, an alarm goes off, saying “Dude, if we’re gonna poke fun at someone’s challenges like that, we’re gonna look pretty stupid getting offended at someone merely using the term ‘gay lifestyle’”. Sadly, the internal voice is ignored.
Fortunately Hastur doesn’t speak for all gays. Whether or not he’s a total asshole has noting to do with the properness of referring to a “gay lifestyle.” It just makes him a chump.
Although the fact that he agrees with Matt about this nazi thing probably proves Matt wrong
The words “Pot” and “Kettle” spring to mind.
Now I am not, in any way going to get into an argument about the semantics of this issue because I know from experience how they drag on and get to a point when both sides are just repeating themselves and getting more and more angry with eachother.
I just want to say that I agree with Scylla when he says that if someone is offended by something a poster said when that poster obviously had no intention to offend then he/she should open up another thread to discuss it politely.
Hastur, in the IT’S NOT A FUCKING LIFESTLYE…" thread was NOt, by any stretch of the imagination, being polite. Instead of getting people to understand his point of view, he just acted like a raging prick and offered no understanding to all of the people who up until this time never had any idea of the shockingly vile and outrageously offensive properties of “Gay Lifestyle”.
Then, he makes fun of Scylla, totally negating in the process any sympathy anyone might have had for him and confirms his status as a grade A hypocritical arsehole.
As I said before, I don’t want to get involved in the semantics of either side. I just stopped in to say that I agreed wholeheartedly with Scylla when he said that he would:
because IMHO, this is by far the best way to go about letting people know you find something offensive, and also to tell Hastur that if he wants understanding, he’s going about it totally the wrong way and making himself look like the cretin he probably is.
You can’t make a statement like the one I mentioned above and be the same guy who started not one but TWO threads about how much you hate the Amish. ALL the Amish, based on the actions of your neighbors. If that’s not prejudice and bigotry, I don’t know what is. Knowing this, it leads me to not trust a single word you say when you stand on your soapbox claiming not to be a bigot. You may hide behind your hatred of politically correct speech, but don’t for one moment delude yourself into thinking that nobody knows your real reasons for furthering this argument.
We could never break my grandmother of the habit of calling Brazil nuts “nigger toes” in public or pirvate.
Was the term acceptable in her youth? I guess so , at least among white people. Is it acceptable now? Absolutely not.
Is it still OK for hubby’s great aunt to refer to black people as “colored”, as she did in her youth? Probably not, as the term “colored” reminds many people of the barbaric treatment black people received in this country for hundreds of years.
Is this language fascism? Can’t I say whatever the hell I want, and damn you if you don’t like it?
Please. If I am the kind of person who tries to do the right thing generally, then I don’t say or do things that other people find offensive. It’s called tact, or politeness, or manners. Ever heard of them?
And if I have any imagination at all, I can find dozens of words that describe what I want to say. Or I could invest in a fucking thesaurus.
Aaaaaaaarggggghhhhh!
Damn! and I almost fooled everybody. I guess I’ll just have to go back to running my death camp.
No. I am by no means perfect. I was pissed (and quite frankly I still am.) Because my problems were overwhelmingly with Amish people I extended this to all Amish. This is wrong. Some of this was partly in jest, but it was overrall pretty nasty. Right about now I’m realizing that that was probably a pretty bad thing to do.
So I guess on that subject I am a bigot. I wasn’t trying to be hypocritical, it’s just the Amish thing seemed different.
It seemed pretty safe to vent my frustrations here (since amish don’t use the internet.)
I was also mean to the French in another thread.
I admit that I’m an asshole, and your point is well-taken Drain. I’m just not an asshole ALL the time.
In my Hate! Hate! Hate! thread in GD I also mentioned that I only hated the Amish in a fond kind of way.
“You can’t make a statement like the one I mentioned above and be the same guy who started not one but TWO threads about how much you hate the Amish. ALL the Amish, based on the actions of your neighbors. If that’s not prejudice and bigotry, I don’t know what is. Knowing this, it leads me to not trust a single word you say when you stand on your soapbox claiming not to be a bigot. You may hide behind your hatred of politically correct speech, but don’t for one moment delude yourself into thinking that nobody knows your real reasons for furthering this argument.”
Actually that’s not fair. No, I’m not free of prejudice. Both those links you provided might also be used as evidence that I tend to speak my mind. If I had an agenda, or a problem with gay people, I’d say it.
I guess the reason I’m pissed at the Amish is because I feel that they are prejudiced and bigoted against me. It’s probably also why I’m pissed off about this PC verbiage. It affects me. Does this make a difference? Probably it makes the difference between somebody like Hastur who’s a total asshole about being prejudiced against, and somebody like Esprix who rises above it and shows real class.
In that particular circumstance, I guess I demonstrated which category I fell into.
Scylla, you need a new gig. After rereading the threads that DrainBead linked to, I see how heavy reliance on using Nazi to demonize your enemies really are.
I mean, I ain’t going to go into all of your posts, but we now have three arguments you have gotten into, and three times you have used it.
The Amish are like the Nazis.
Evil Nazi Groundhogs. (admittedly, in jest)
Language Nazi.
Before long, you will be known as Scylla, Modern Day Nazi Hunter. I mean you seem to find it in your everyday life so often.
Ok, this post is partly in jest, I just found it rather glaring the amount you choose to use that term, at the very least it is becoming something of a cliche for you, and you might want to expand your vocabulary of insults.
pat
PS: Hastur, your dyslexic “jokes” colored every other comment you made with your hateful spew. Perhaps you should apoligize, or stay away from this thread, any reason I had to respect your arguments were lost with that jibe.
Scylla, every time you hit the Submit Reply button you confirm for me that you are a proudly–belligerently, even–ignorant, insensitive . . . person. You’ve succeeded, time and time again, in demonstrating that this is a state you have achieved through much–well, if not contemplation, at least rationalization. I am thoroughly convinced that no narrow ray of illumination will ever make it past the even narrower, um, sphincter with which you so carefully guard your mind from any real contact with the outside world.
I’m not going to enter this debate with you, because you have no intention of debating (at least you were honest enough this time to start it in the Pit and not pretend, as in the past, to be engaged in a real exchange). I just wanted to let you know that, for some of us, each attempt you make to clarify your position only succeeds in more clearly establishing the bankruptcy of your worldview.
You know Scylla, I take offense at your politically incorrect word in the title of your thread. Goddamm?
You are insulting all the christians around here!
Sorry kettle, your black; or should I say african american hypocrite?
It’s poetic justice that a time when I was rude and hurtful and uncaring come back and haunt me when I’m speaking on a topic that I care about.
To a fair reader it calls into questions my motivations, and invalidates my arguments.
When people treat you badly it bothers you deep inside where there is not a lot of reason. Some people handle that with class and respond with goodwill.
With the Amish I did neither. “Why should I?” I thought. “These are bad people. I deserve to be pissed. People should tolerate that I’m upset, and cut me some slack.”
I then played it for all it’s worth.
I was wrong with what I did, and I was way out of line. It was mean and insensitive, and I can’t justify it.
My bad behavior was made even worse when the shoe was on the other foot. When somebody else was wronged, and responding to it in a much more reasonable manner than I did, I was very quick to be resentful of the slightest imposition. It would have cost me nothing not to post, or to air my views in a less inflammatory manner. It would have cost me nothing simply not to insist on my “right” to use the terms especially since I didn’t particularly want to.
No, I had to be a hard ass and stand up for what I believe in even if it’s trivial and petty, and to do so causes hurt and misunderstanding where there is already enough. It’s especially hypocritical since I’ve proven that I’m not even close to living up to the standards that I insist on in others. I was being mean and petty.
Drain:
You did a good thing by slapping me in the face with those threads.
I didn’t think that I was the bad guy. Now I see that I am.