Yeah, this one is really really looking over now, even if OneandOnly is setting McGinty up.
Yeah, the no-kill night was, by itself, probably enough to seal it for Town. Getting two incriminating investigations, one of them from a trusted source, is just icing on the cake.
Could someone ELSE spoil me, given that story is pretty busy at the moment? I’m really dying to know how exactly things went down last night.
I’m guessing that it was a doc block. With you dead there should be only one kill out there, except maybe for a Vig who seems to be holding back.
Unless you know something we don’t? 
Well, evidently Cookies had at least one kill.
Cookies could easily be scum.
We have a semi-confirmed doctor claim who can protect multiple people in a Night, and he claims to have in fact protected the two people who were the most likely targets (and possibly others? He doesn’t say). Simplest explanation is that he protected correctly.
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/shameless plug
I don’t know why McGinty’s dinking around and talking about suicide; a day-kill of Cookies looks like a no-brainer at the moment. (For that matter, if he does do a day-kill and Cookies turns up PFK, what anti-Town role do people think he has?)
How interesting.
Town behavior is baffling, sometimes.
On day one, of all days, they realized that Romanic walking away was the best-case scenario. It allows town a shot at a second lynch. Town realizes this, but also realizes how little information they have to go on at this point. It’s only day one, after all. They go for it anyway, since it denies scum a night kill.
Yet now, they’re thinking it’s NOT in their best interest to have two lynches? With all of the information they have, they’d be making a MUCH more informed decision. And they’d still be denying whatever scum or PFKs remain a night kill.
Day 1: Maybe killing a town for a shot in the dark at potential scum. Let’s go for it!
Day Now: Definitely killing somebody who’s taken anti-town actions and lied about it for a better-than-average shot at scum or other PFKs. Maybe we shouldn’t.
So weird to see such waffling in behavior within a single game.
Completely different scenarios.
The second lynch on Day One was essential since lynch votes generate data. At this point in the game, the players are less interested in generating data and more interested in dealing with the data they have. Furthermore, the claim as stated has Night Powers that need to be part of the equation (unlike Romanic).
The case of Romanic is instructive in another way: When Romanic took his Day-action, it took effect immediately (well, as soon as story saw it). If Mrs. McGinty’s power works the same way, and if she’s Town, then she has a chance to provide good evidence in her favor: She’d be proven to have a Day-kill power (unusual for Scum, especially given that the known Strongman is dead), and if Cookies turns out to be third-party, she’d be cleared of that possibility, too, thanks to Mahaloth’s information.
Of course, I think it’s moot, since I believe that she faked her PM, anyway.
That’s definitely a possibility. Can I ask you, what specifically leads you to believe she’s faking?
This is not a spoiler (because I don’t remember McGinty’s role,how it works or if it the claim is truthful, and I am not going to check), just something I happen to know about Story. He won’t put a Daykill into the game that resolves instantly. He personally dislikes that mechanic because he was once killed by an instant death mechanic in a game a long while back. It pissed him off and he vowed never to use that sort of thing in his own game. So if there is a Daykill in this game (and I don’t’ know if there is or not) I would be dollars to doughnuts that it resolves at dusk.
Well, except that he already had an instant-resolution Daykill in this game, albeit that that was something of a special case.
I said it in post 196. The key, to me, is
Why would anyone describe someone as “a guy with two thumbs”? Why, especially, would anyone describe a guy who cut off his own hand that way? I think she copied that from a similar line in Romanic’s claim, where it does make sense to describe him as having two thumbs, since he’s a hitchhiker. I think that she took bits and pieces from other claims to match Storyteller’s style.
What Daykill? Romanic? That would be different, because it happens at the time of the leaving players choosing. What he dislikes about the mechanic is removing a player from the middle of a round unexpectedly. If the player volunteers to leave then it isn’t unexpected. Getting killed mid round is.
I’m afraid the two aren’t comparable.
Romanic’s exit was entirely under the control of Romanic. He had the free choice to use his power at any time.
The incident that NAF refers to (which happened in the Last Bastion game on Idle’s site) was not Storyteller’s decision, and I think he was a little surprised (Storyteller saw it coming a short way off.)
There are some balancing factors. The biggest one was that it required the Demons to make a one-for-one trade. In order to use the power, the Head Demon had to sacrifice another player, killing that player to execute the Daykill. So two players died. The second was that there were roles in the game that could have negated the Daykill. Too bad they were dead.
There was also the fact that (thanks to the gameplay) the Demons knew Storyteller was capable of really hurting the Demon position if only he survived to Night; unfortunately he’d had to reveal this in order to avoid being lynched that Day.
I seem to recall that his specific objection was that he’d spent a good amount of time putting together a case, only to find out he’d been killed midday. That’s got to be frustrating.
Yeah, that sounds terrible to me. Wasting someone else’s time is a huge moderator no-no. At least for me.