Except they didn’t start out ‘dating’. It started with a booze-assisted roll in the hay and continued as a fling for a while. He probably figured he’d tell her eventually but their time together has hardly been smooth.
He does. He didn’t accept the offer from her sister and he told Meredith that she’s the love of his life. Is he supposed to submit himself to repeated kicks in the gonads, too, to prove it?
I didn’t hear that bit of dialogue the way you did; it sounds like you’ve got it wrong.
Maybe you do. Maybe other people don’t feel less than whole or free just because a divorce hasn’t been finalized. If the emotional break is complete, the paperwork is pretty much moot.
Nice. You claim he’s a jerk - well, a jerk would ‘laugh and scoff’ at a former loved one who’s still in love with him and asks for another chance. Make up your mind - either you want him to be a jerk or you don’t.
No, he did the decent thing; the person he was married to asked for a chance to redeem herself for her mistake so he gave her one. He forgives people who wrong him, which, apparently, is not considered a decent thing to do by some people.
People say stupid things when they are hurt. The Gray’s interns and their bedmates are sterling examples of this.
I don’t think McDreamy expects Meredith to be a perfect, cheery girlfriend. He expects her to share her griefs with him. He doesn’t want to be turned away and ignored every time she has a bad day, he wants her to share the bad days with him and let him help. Meredith is emotionally distant and he doesn’t like that. Not that he doesn’t have problems of his own in that regard…
But when she did that, didn’t he act put upon, whine something inane about breathing for her, and go off to his trailer to get away from her?
Why yes, I think he did.
If he really wants to share the bad times, why did he walk away from the house when her step-mother died? (Yeah, she was having a drink with her roommates - should she have been standing at the window waiting for him and only him “No, McDreamy will come to me, I know it.”) Why did he walk away when she’d failed to write anything on her test - everyone else was there without prompting, without asking, why didn’t he stay?
No, I said the same thing in a thread about an earlier episode. And then I got roped into watching Sweet Home Alabama last night, and that didn’t change things either.
Except that isn’t what he said. He said that an attractive woman was flirting with him, nothing happened, but it was the highlight of his week. Because Meredith was treating him like crap all week. Therefore, any attention he got from a woman beats how Meredith was treating him. Not the same thing as you read into this dialogue.
I would, in his shoes, give her a little slack because of the shitty week she was having. Strangely, this is the only week where her behavior actually has a defense.
That’s what I thought.
Despite everything, he told her she was the love of his life. I’m thinking that was pretty slack-giving 
Any time a show has to resort to the old and very trite “wedding canceled at the very last minute” ploy, it has Jumped the Shark.
Sadly, Bones just JtS too. 
Well, it wasn’t like anyone who watches the show actually thought there would be a wedding. Once it was announced, it was just a matter of time before it was cancelled.
I kind of liked the twist they used there. Reminded me of Jane Eyre. 
Yes, if not from Meredith, from me.
I don’t think so, hon. I think telling your SO that flirtation from another woman was the highlight of your week, that’s not really cool. What positive or constructive purpose could it serve? It’s hurtful and punitive, and is likely to get the exact reaction Derek got-- walking away. Meredith had a very bad couple of months. Think about it: 2 close family deaths and a near-death experience would make even a saint grumpy… add to that dealing with Christina’s wedding freak outs, final exams, dad’s abuse… how would you be feeling?
How can you say the emotional break with Addison was complete considering he got back together with her? He should have told Meredith he was married well before that embarrassing scene. They were pretty serious when Addison showed up. It was wrong of him to withhold that info. I don’t see how you can dispute or excuse that.
I don’t think laughing out loud at someone who cheated on you with your best friend in your bed, and refusing to get back with that person, is jerkish. It would show that he was over her; the fact that he didn’t shows that all your arguments about how he didn’t have to disclose because he was over Addison are off base.
Derek had every right to scoff at Addison’s overtures of reconciliation. It was a laughable reunion. That whole crazy love triangle disaster was rooted in Derek’s jerkishness. If he had just dismissed Addison’s efforts and stayed with Meredith, he would have saved everyone a lot of pain.
I don’t think he behaved decently at all, starting with his lie of omission about being married, a marriage that clearly was not over either. Everyone was more hurt by Derek and Addison’s abortive attempt at getting back together, since his heart was not in it and neither was hers, apparently, since she went back to Mark a few times. If he had told Meredith he was separated and she chose to get involved anyway, then it would be on her. As it was, it was a disaster, which makes for good soap opera, but not good policy when dealing with people you supposedly love.
It was said several times. Derek’s sisters said it too. Addison, who had zero right to talk trash about anyone else’s dirty behavior, said it. Meredith got a lot of shit for an “affair” she was deceived into having.
No, but I think my reason for not being attracted to him is that he played the devil in this movie, and it still weirds me out to think of his as a nice guy.
So, this was the “life sucks for everyone” episode, huh?
I think that the real JtS moment, as identified by future generations, will be when Meredith’s stepmother was killed. Completely unnecessary, and there was still a lot of mileage left in the reconciliation between Meredith and her father.
I sort of feel like the Derek/Meredith problems are fabricated out of thin air to give the show more drama. Objectively, there’s nothing going on in their relationship, especially in comparison to the rest of it (which they happily accepted), which would justify a break up. It’s just dumb.
I can’t wait for the Addison show myself. It seems to have set itself up in a good way. The whole co-op thing gives them a rational excuse to make it a soap opera and a little less silly.
Derek is an asshole, and I don’t see how he could possibly be perceived any other way. He failed to tell Meredith he was married, then he dumped her for his ex, then when she attempted to move on he called her a whore, then he fucked her again and spent some MORE time jerking the two of them around, until Addison found Meredith’s panties in his pocket at which point he dumped Addison. Since then, he’s spent the last miserable month of Meredith’s life trying to make her feel guilty for not paying more attention to him.
I haaaaaate Meredith, but she should still boot *his * ass with a quickness.
And as a side note… how exactly is Lexy one year younger than Meredith? Weren’t Thatcher and Ellis together until Meredith was at least preschoolish age? And even if they broke up the day Meredith was born, did Thatcher actually meet, marry, and knock up Susan within the next three to six months?
She’s not (or she can’t be) she’s just one year behind. I hope. But given these writers problems with the space/time continuum, I’m not sure.
They’ve not been clear about Meredith’s age. I think that highschool to college to med school to residency to interns without stopping doctors are in their mid-to-late twenties, which is how old Lexie looks. Ellen Pompeo is very clearly in her mid-to-late thirties and looks every day of it. I’m assuming that she took a break somewhere on the road to becoming a doctor, which explains how Lexie is just one year back.
Didn’t Ellis mention Meredith having gone off to Europe after college; perhaps it was an extended stay…
That’s what I’ve been thinking too. It was mentioned for the episode where Ellis was lucid, right? I keep thinking she was gone four years instead of fouur months (like I keep thinking was the stated length of the trip).
Or maybe Lexie is just really really smart. Doogie Howser smart.
Cool. She’ll be as emotionally retarded as the rest of them.
That right there sums up my biggest problem with the show. I’ve said to a few people that it seems to me as if there’s one set of writers who right the dialogue, and a different set who set the stories. Only now it seems like there is more than one group who write the stories and they alternate randomly so we never know if we’ll get a “Derek is a jerk” week, or a “Derek is a smarmy weasel” week. I am frequently very irritated but what these characters are saying, but I still enjoy the way they say it.
I have no opinions about Lexie - well I do, but I’m too distracted by my fantasy episode of the spinoff where Addison butts egos with Dr. Howser - special guest Neil Patrick Harris saying “I’ve been at this hospital for over 20 years and you stroll in…”
Doogie Howser was in LA, right?