Presumably an allusion to Pan.
Yeah, I wasn’t questioning the long-standing correspondence between goats and sexuality so much as the idea that no-fail seduction = rape. Sorry, but I just don’t equate oozing sexiness is the same as putting drugs in a date’s drink. But then my views about sexual activity are not all that mainstream - it just never struck me as that big a deal unless STD, pregancy, or injury resulted.
I will admit that I wasn’t thinking of Pan or Satyrs at the time, so when I made that post this morning, I was finding the goat reference a little obscure - odd, since I’m a fairly long-time denizen of the SDMB, where goats and sex are never too far apart. Of course, goats and rocketry/catapults are never too far apart here either (nor are sex and giant squid), so the Dope may be a bit skewed in its general attitudes too. 
ETA: still, I need to rewatch the episode, because, honestly, the whole thing just didn’t hang together for me. I’m confused about Cop Captain, I’m confused about the quotes at the beginning of each episode, I’m confused because Black Partner (I never know the names of characters in shows) saw and apparently was injured by a snake, I’m confused as to why Goat Guy was imprisoning women in his house, I’m confused because I could swear somebody else turned into some other kind of monster for a moment, and I have no idea who or what kind of monster it was, etc. Maybe I was drunk and didn’t know it, which would be odd since I can’t remember the last time I had any alcohol, but it must have been at least a year or five.
Answers to your questions (then some of my own):
He had a stone statue of Pan in his garden that the camera showed for a while.
I don’t understand the quotes myself actually, I’m assuming they’re Grimm translations but they narry have anything to do with the episode
Cop Captain seems to have his own agenda in dealing with Grimms/his cop underling, protecting him from some and leading him into danger with others (hexenbeasts)
Black partner saw the snake cuz the gas was affecting him, I don’t think he was actually injured by it
I didn’t see any other monsters.
What’s really confusing me is the shapeshifting. So the people do it accedentally? or they pop in and out of monster mode all the time and only main guy can see it? Does every creature know he is automatically a Grimm? I am honestly very interested in the show but it’s getting way way way too predictable and it’s becoming too serial…we need a shake up.
The opening quotes are from the actual Brothers Grimm fairy tales. The most recent was from “Bluebeard.”
Ah, I watched it again yesterday evening. At which point I remembered that I’d had a severe headache Friday night, and had taken some medicine for it, which along with it being fairly late in the day (i.e. I was getting sleepy), made me a little foggier than usual. On this second watching, it all made much more sense, although I do find things less than perfectly clear.
First of all, I’d entirely forgotten that the whole investigation was triggered by the woman wearing a white gown running out into the road and being hit by a truck, then strangled by goat guy. The whole goat guy explanation, especially that this one is a “herder,” is pretty lame and not explained clearly at all. I love the idea that these critters tend to be actors, politicians, etc, but there’s just no explanation of why they would be inclined to keep the women rather than just inseminating every woman he can get to and hoping for the best. It’s also never explained how this particular woman was suddenly able to snap out of goat guy’s influence and run for it.
The other monster was the French Grimm Reaper (a clever play on words, that). The cop captain’s ends are still so very unclear that almost none of it makes any sense. Lord of All Fairy Tale Monsters in Portland/the World just doesn’t seem like a big enough deal to justify cop captain’s actions, especially since the FTMs don’t seem to have many interests in common with one another.
And if black partner was hallucinating stuff like the bed post snake due to the gas, we have a problem, because we (the audience) have no way at all to distinguish between main character’s ability to see hidden realities and any character’s hallucinations. And the shapeshifting seems very inconsistent; clearly the Grimm can’t always see it, but it’s not at all clear whether he sees it due to the FTM slipping or his own ability kicking in or what. It does make Big Good Wolf a very useful character, though. And I love that he plays the cello.
This show may not keep my interest much longer, but I must say, I loved the over-the-top serenity of that fellow’s garden. The (large!) rabbit on the stairway was a nice touch, although you’d expect some warning that delicate animals — and the associated droppings — are underfoot.
This is something that I genuinely don’t understand. If his goal was merely to impregnate, he could be not only much more thorough but much more legal by seducing a different woman or two a night. So was he just a sadistic psychopath? But the description of goat-guys as charismatic individuals always seeking the public eye didn’t mesh very well with a lone weirdo keeping women caged and drugged.
My understanding is that the Grimm can always see the shapeshifting, it’s just that the shapeshifting only seems to happen rarely — usually when the FTM slips (I think they mention this in the first show or two?). The problem I have is: what’s the nature of the shapeshifting? Is it real, or spiritual somehow? Presumably the bear galloping up to him a few episodes ago was the result of a genuine, physical shape-shift, but most of the time those out of the know don’t notice. So could (say) Monroe just walk around hirsute all the time, and no one would notice but Grimms or other FTMs?
Oh, yeah, I meant to mention that! That garden was absolutely wonderful! The rabbit was, I believe, a Flemish Giant. Sorta the Saint Bernard of rabbits.
This is the kind of thing that makes me crazy. Did they just not think this through, or are they revealing it slowly? I mean, yes, by all means, give us impossible stories. But they must have rules! They have to be internally consistent in order to be plausible.
But, I will say that the show is still doing atmospherics pretty well, and its cinematography is quite good.
I am going by memory here, but I don’t think the two “normal” humans in the bear episode could see the shapeshifting bear. Otherwise when the paramedics came and fished the woman out of the pit, they would have said something and blown the cover. I believe they saw the running bear as the Mother coming at them in human form.
I do not think regular humans can see any sort of shape-shifting, and Grimm can only see it when one of the creatures loses control. I think when the show portrays the creatures as their “real” form, it is almost always for the benefit of the audience and not happening in reality. This is just purely speculation on my part though, and I agree that it’s really annoying that they haven’t made this clear. (And it is also really annoying we’re only getting about 15 seconds of backstory/what-is-going-on per episode).
i think it’s pretty clear and intuitive that only grimms can see creatures as they are. thus, since it was black cop who saw the bedpost turn into a snake, it was pretty clear that he was hallucinating.
Only Grimms can see the true face of the creatures, and then only when the glamours are dropped. Regular folks see the creatures as human all the time, even when the glamour is not in place. It has not been made clear whether the glamour drops when the creatures are under stress, distracted, shown in reflection, or what. The writers may take the tack that each of the individual creatures loses control of the glamour under different conditions.
When Hank the partner cop was hallucinating in the basement, I agree it was very clear it was from the sedative/hallucinogenic gas being pumped in there.
Yep. One of my buds is a Flemish Giant — Sébastien Barlow — although he doesn’t photograph very well. 
(My SO, a psychiatric social worker, wanted a Flemish to make into a therapy bunny. But that never happened, so he spends his days terrorizing animals that are in theory predators.)
Forgive me if I’m wrong, as I too am going off of memory. But I seem to recall that Grimm was the only non-FTM around at the time. My understanding of the events is that (1) she gallops toward them; (2) she falls into the pit; (3) she changes back into human form before being fished out. If a regular person would’ve just seen a normal middle-aged woman bounding toward him, what would’ve happened once she caught up? Would he be swiped by invisible bear claws, as if the woman were controlling some transparent robot? Or is the bear form just (I dunno) a symbol or something? I’m not getting a good sense for how this is supposed to work.
[Hijack]At one point I had the care of a 13 lb lop optimistically named Mindy, realistically referred to as Spawn of Satan. Gray agouti, so probably had some Flemish Giant in her woodpile. She bit me so hard on the underside of my upper arm one time that the vet, looking at the dark purple bruise, commented that she’d gotten molars in on me!
Rabits are prey animals, but they’re also social animals with a dominance hierarchy. So while flight is often an option for them, many are not in the least averse to fight. Spawn of Satan also managed to bite my nose one time when I leaned over her, hard enough that she broke the skin to the point that it was noticed when I went to work! She was moody that way… All sweetness one moment, evil vampire bunny the next.[/Hijack]
The young bears were all carrying “claws” - I believe the transformation of mommy bear was, again, for the viewers - as other noted, if she had actually transformed, those spikes would have shredded her.
One thing that is obvious - their “beast” ability does make them stronger than humans, etc - notice goatMan’s leaping from building to ground etc. (clearly, Grimm has super speed, but – ) And atleast in the fight between beeGirl and WitchLawyer, the witch started some form of ‘curse’ to the arm while the beegirl just had a vial of venom (why did she not swarm the bees on her instead?)
I’d have been eating rabbit stew the next day.
Watch it, or I’ll sick Sebastien on you – he’s big enough to hop on your head and crush you like Mario on a Goomba.
(He’s actually pretty nice; he doesn’t bite, and his method of terrifying the cats involves trying to dance with them. While they stand bewildered at this monstrosity circling them threateningly …)
Good news, fellow fans – the show has been picked up for a full season, according to my TV reviewer pal.
Good. Now I can be confused for an entire season!
Well, we’ve got a chance of finding out what the deal is with the captain, anyway.
This show is OK, but I hate how cliched it is. The aunt waiting until the last minute to tell Nick about his Grimm heritage; The captain is probably evil; The bee queen all acting mysterious instead of being direct, and getting into a situation which causes Nick to kill her before she can tell him what’s coming form him.
I’ll call it right now. Nick’s girlfriend isn’t human.