I’m guessing Hastur’s problems stem for one of the following:
One: He can’t afford his meds, so he is hoping for a Gore win to keep him sedated for free.
Two: He is in a complete meltdown as he watches Gore crash and burn. A feeling of complete vulnerability is sweeping over him as he contemplates at least 2 years under a Republican controlled gov’t.
Either way, I can understand his lashing out.
Just hold on Hastur, things will be OK.
You have my cordial invitation to bite me, you patronizing bastard. It amazes me that Bush followers fail to listen to anything substantial that is said about him. Instead, you wish to follow him blindly into hell. His father was a lousy president and Dubya is even less qualified.
I am just fine, and if anyone needs medication to be grounded in reality, it is the dolts on here who fail to see fact and reason.
We’ll listen to facts and reason when you present some to us. As it is, “Texas is THIS bad, and THIS horrible, blah blah blah” doesn’t really cut it. And it doesn’t really help when you preceded that with “Well, you disagree with me, so you’re obviously ignorant.”
So, sir, where are these “facts” and this “reason” that you make vague allusions to having made?
Spoofe, I listed a link to The Texas Observer’s Bush Files at: http://www.bushfiles.com/bush_toc.html
I think they support my position and what I said quite well.
When I see links in people’s posts, I read them. I question whether anyone on here read anything on there at all.
My my. Such an unbiased link you provided, Hastur! Such a compellingly neutral source of information!
I have some compellingly neutral sites as well:
http://www.hereliesalgore.com/
http://www.gorewillsayanything.com/gorelies.htm
:rolleyes:
At least my link was from a Texas paper which is directly affect by Dubya…
And those links were from the internet which was invented by Gore.
Several years ago, (coincidentally, it was right before election time), an article in the paper criticized Florida for it’s spending habits on teacher salaries and education which were very similar to the one’s posted for Texas (above). As I recall, we were in the 45 to 49 range.
My first reaction was “why aren’t we dead last?”
Why is it that the left measures a government’s success by spending instead of accomplishments???
**stolichnaya, **, **RTFirefly
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Waaaaay earlier in this thread we did a minor sidetrack about the polls and the way they weight Republicans and Democrats. RtFirefly scoffed at the idea and called the author a “klutz”
Today I saw an article that addresses the exact same question:
I now return you to your regularly scheduled debate.
That was a priceless comeback. LOL and all that . . . sorry, just had to say that, pls carry on, gentlemen . . .
Only one more week.
Does anybody have any predictions on the outcome?
Here are mine:
**GW wins and gets over 400 EC votes.
Bush takes California.
None of the third parties get 5%. (Nader included)
The Republicans keep the house and the Senate.
The NY Senate race will be a squeaker, 2% either way. I think my hate for Hillary may be blinding my objectivity here, but this one is to close for me to call.
Lieberman keeps his Senate seat.
Alaska legalizes marijuana.**
I can’t think of anything else to predict.
Well, here is how the Election is shaping up. According to the most recent Field Poll:
Gore 17* states— 224 electoral votes(counts DC as a St.)
Bush 25 states— 214 electoral votes
undecided 9 st----100 votes
Thus even if GW wins every single undecided state-it will by no means be a “Landslide”. Split them 50-50, and Gore wins. They would have to go 40-60 Gore/Bush to be a tie. (if there is a tie- GW will win it- each State gets 1 vote then)
I had predicted Gore winning by a modest # of electoral votes, but having only a plurality of the popular vote. My guess now is that Gore will just squeak by in the Electoral college (or possible lose, but by a couple votes) but that GW will actually have more popular votes than Gore, even if Gore wins. UNLESS- Nader throws his votes to Gore- then a modest, but comfortable Gore victory, OR if either cand really f*cks-up big time (more likely to be GW than Gore- but who knows?)
Freedom: I’ll bet you that GW neither gets a “landslide” (over 400 electoral votes) or wins in CA. If I win- you promise to not whimper, whine complain or bitch about Gore (here)- if I lose the same goes but me re GW- Deal?
Sure I’ll make a bet.
But first, I just want to throw in here that I think Nader has nothing to do with a Gore loss. I think Bush will get over 50% of the vote, so even if Gore got 100% of Nader’s votes, he still would have lost. In addition, from what I have seen, a bunch of Nader voters are first time voters, so their votes for him do not come from what Gore would have been expecting as his base.
About the Bet
I saw someone else around here that had to add something to their signature when they lost. I would go for something like that.
The signature could say something like:
I would figure that the bet would include leaving that in your signature until inaguration? (Jan 20)
I did notice that you picked the things to vote about that have the spread the most heavily in your favor. I don’t think Bush could get 400 with California, and vice versa, so to me that is almost the same thing. I would like to add something in there about the popular vote. It looks to me like you are calling the popular vote witin 2%-advantage Gore.
I would make a straight bet that Bush takes over 50% and wins by over 5%.
OK, see, you said that Bush would win in a landslide, and win CA. Thus, I am betting he will not (unless something very strange happens, like Gore is found schutping an intern). I’ll go along with the sig.
Bush COULD win the election. He could even win by 5%.
But he will NOT win in a landslide (ie 400 EC votes). This, IMHO is a 'cinch" bet.
What’s the sig going to say?
Dubya’s not going to win this one. Oh, it’s going to be close, but I think Gore’s going to take it. Gore’s going to win the electoral vote much more handily than he will the popular vote, but the election will make Albert Gore the 43rd president of the United States. According to my predictions, Gore will get just over 300 electoral votes. I made a page to illustrate my predictions for statewide turnout on November 7:
My state-by-state predictions for 2000.
John Corzine will win the New Jersey Senate seat.
Mel Carnahan’s widow will win the Missouri Senate seat.
Hillary Clinton will wil the New York Senate seat.
The outcomes I’m predicting for the presidential and the aforementioned Senatoral elections all would please me very much. I also predict that the Republicans will keep the House and the Senate, though I’m not thrilled about that. In a way, the Republicans are getting the presidency, too, according to my predictions, since Al Gore is pretty much a Republican. There has never been a viable political left in the United States. Will Ralph Nader change that? Ah, who knows? He won’t change that this time around, I predict.
I just want to say that I read in Time today that the whole election will be decided by the “I-4 corridor” in Central Florida. According to them, whoever takes I-4 will take the state, whoever takes Florida wins the election.
I live half a mile from said interstate.
I can be bought.
Is your prediction for Chicago?
“Bring out your dead…and vote!”
That’s a total of 102%!!!
Since I am taking the cinch odds, i’ll let you pick.
It does not need to be a sig- just no whining, etc, until after the 1st 100 days in office. After that, we can take off the gloves. I’ll be reasonable, whoever loses only has to use the sig for a month- but still no bitching for 100 days in office (they call that the “honeymoon”).
Is this a tame enough sig line?
The sig line stays in until Inugauration, No whining until Nov 7th + 100, or Jan. 20th + 100?
The Bet is a straight bet on Bush getting 400 votes in the EC.
**Chance the Gardener
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I would be happy to include you in this. If you are sure enough about the results to build a web page, then a little bet on the SD should be no big deal.
Furt
If Daniel contacts you, I would like a chance to bid as well.