Hmmm… You know, for my next “knockout art” that I commission, I just may have the artist draw a villain KOing my Panther Girl character with an exclamation point. That would be interesting.
When I compose my long reply (I am still thinking about what to say), I will try my best to not use the infernal and offensive exclamation point. It will be difficult.
It would be easier for you if we knock you out first.
Make sure you’re scantily clad!!!
See… the guy is a patron of the arts. OK, maybe not someone I’d want touching my food or sitting next to my sister on the subway, but probably not worth a pit thread and definitely not deserving of the serial killer comment.
You know, I just wouldn’t bother. You’ve got nothing to explain or defend. A long reply wouldn’t convince JH, and no one else seems to need one. It would just come off as overly defensive.
I don’t know what Johnny’s problem is, but I strongly suspect it isn’t gytalf2000, The Simpsons, or SDMB timeouts. Maybe his over the top rage is caused by supressing all those bondage fantasies for so long.
Or maybe he just needs somebody to go over and untie him.
Holy Exclaimer, Batman!
Re-read the quote in the OP. I’ll go ahead quote part of it just in case you don’t feel like scrolling up.
It sounds to me like he gets off on violence against women. That’s a bit creepy to me. YMMV I suppose.
Marc
I am picturing gytalf2000 as the Riddler, except the suit is covered with his punctuation of choice.
It creeps me out, sure. In the cold light of day, I have a few quirks that don’t really hold up either. Hence me not talking about them 
I can sort of see it. There’s a vulnerability aspect that some might find kind of hot.
Myself, I have some fantasies that would probably scandalize the lot of you. But none of them involve violence, humiliation, bondage, or lack of consciousness. OK, maybe that last one, but only in the sense of “nice way to be woken up.”
To Johnny Hildo :
I cannot blame you for getting a bit skeeved out by my fetish. As others have pointed out, it is different and creepy. There is plenty of real-life violence against women going on in this world, and I figure that it is normal to be at least a bit creeped out by someone who fantasizes about knocking women out. It is simply not normal to have these fantasies.
And yet – I have had them for as long as I can remember. As stated before, I am a paraphiliac who has substituted a forbidden activity for normal sex. The knockout/capture does not lead to sex – it replaces it.
I have never particularly enjoyed kissing, and I do not find genitalia visually attractive. I have only dated three women in my entire life – we actually got along very well, but the relationships fizzled out for various reasons. I have never had sex – at least as “normal” people define sex.
I was raised by a very loving mother. My father died a few weeks after I was born, so I never knew him. Perhaps the absence of a father figure could be a contributing factor to developing odd fetishes.
I was raised in a fundamentalist household (Church of Christ). Even though I was extremely skeptical about many tenets of conventional religion from a pretty early age, I internalized the “don’ts” pretty well – no drinking, no cursing, no sex outside of marriage, etc. I have considered that this upbringing could definitely be a factor in my perversity.
The fact that I have this unusual fetish once bothered me a bit more than it does now – although it never bothered me that much, since I do not have a “tortured soul” mentality. I eventually figured out that, since I actually get along very well with women in real life, and have zero desire to harm anyone, I did not need to worry about my KO fetish.
I do realize that I am an unusual person. I am sure that there are individuals with my exact same fetishes who have decided to act on them in real life, and as a consequence became serial killers. At one of the sites that I frequent, the “Chloroforum”, we regularly have folks that inquire about obtaining real chloroform. We have to tell them that we only like the fantasy aspect of KO scenes, and have no desire to harm anyone. We attempt to dissuade them from taking the fetish to the next step, since chloroform is a dangerous substance and can lead to death.
Well, this has been a long post. And I have used no exclamation points. I hope that I have enlightened you about my bizarre and deviant sexual desires.
Take care.
gytalf2000
Wait, Johnny, it gets worse. He gets his art via Canada Post.
I would wager that if the real thing happened to anyone near him, he would be more frightened than excited. It’s my bet that he gets off on the stylized, play-acting presentation of the knockout fantasy.
What would be “violence against women”, in my eyes, would be if he were excited about a woman knocked unconscious by several crushing blows to the head with blood spattering everywhere. He says there’s no rape involved in the fantasy, and nowhere have I heard that actual blood and pain is a necessary component.
I had a girlfriend who was constantly proposing that I take advantage of her, so to speak, while she was drunk. She even hinted once that I could use knock-out drops on her. I hadn’t heard of knockout fantasies through the Internet, so I didn’t (then) make the connection. I doubt that she really fantasized about some stranger slipping her a mickey and raping her. It was just a loss-of-control fantasy, nothing more.
When I hear about people with fantasies as in the OP, I wonder how many of them think, “I wish I could be the man who’s administering the chloroform!” and how many think, “I wish I could be the female victim!” As long as there are people on both sides of the fantasy, somehow that makes it less creepy to me.
Meh, as long as they’re not doing anything with it, it doesn’t bother me. It’s not as if he’s saying that real life violence gets him off. A lot of people (many of whom are women) have rape fantasies but watching actual rapes would skeeve them out.
This just made me laugh out loud.
And as an aside, pretty much every porn site I’ve ever seen has a bondage section, which tells me its pretty common.
Dan Savage had someone write in to him saying that his fantasy was to have sex with his wife while she was asleep, and while awake, she had agreed to it, but each time he tried to engage her while she was asleep, she pulled away, and he didn’t push the matter because he felt weird about it. Considering how careful a lot of these people are about bringing their fantasies into real life, there doesn’t seem a whole lot to worry about. (Dan’s advice, incidentally, was Ambien.)
**MGibson, ** nowhere in my reply did I say that I thought knocking women out wasn’t creepy. I just wondered why the OP seemed to think that scenario was creepier than rape.
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I would wager that if the real thing happened to anyone near him, he would be more frightened than excited. It’s my bet that he gets off on the stylized, play-acting presentation of the knockout fantasy.
What would be “violence against women”, in my eyes, would be if he were excited about a woman knocked unconscious by several crushing blows to the head with blood spattering everywhere. He says there’s no rape involved in the fantasy, and nowhere have I heard that actual blood and pain is a necessary component.
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I don’t like “real-life” KOs where you actually see blood, bruises, etc. It is the fantasy-type KO, where the heroine’s beauty is unmarred, that turns me on.
Wow, gytalf2000, that’s an interesting story. Kind of sad, IMO, but if you’re cool with it, then – ahem – knock yourself out.
Doesn’t speak well of a strict Christian upbringing, though. If, in fact, that’s how it happened. Which it may very well have not.
I should mention that I used to call a sex line years ago, one in which there were no actors, just people calling in to talk to other callers and share fantasies. If I had any illusions that women aren’t sick fucks, who often like to be victimized (or victimize), that line put an end to it.
No, I’m not sharing details. Let’s just say I’ll never think of Turtle Wax in the same way again. Ouch.
Gave a whole new meaning to “wax on, wax off” did it?
Yeah, I was waxing on like a motherfuck.