Yeah, hearing Roy Cooper gives me Tim Kaine vibes. Not sure what excites anyone about him, or what he strategically brings to the ticket. Damn, Ima gonna hate to see the Dems shoot themselves in the foot again, right when they have a chance at momentum!
I had said before that we needed a straight white guy from a swing state under 65 with executive experience but there aren’t a lot of them. I don’t think we can risk too many minorities. We can’t afford a Jewish candidate with the current Israel-Palestine conflict, not to mention that we would have a Jewish Fist Gentleman. Newsome is charismatic but he and Harris both came from Willie Brown’s stable and he is also a bit of a slime ball ( I also cannot support anyone who could date let alone marry Kimberly Guilfoyle).Kaine would be a good choice since apparently Virginia’s in play but he’s too old and he’s actively running for reelection and we can’t lose that seat. I guess Bashear or Cooper are options but aside from the executive experience I like Mark Kelly. He’s not necessarily the most charismatic but he has the backstory, counters one of Vance’s strengths by actually having served in combat and of course astronaut! Also stood by his wife after the shooting and has a great record on gun control to contrast against Trump’s God protected me rhetoric. He’s a decent guy who will play well in middle America.
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And to think people on SDMB laughed at me when I mentioned this sort of thing before (multiple times), but now, there’s a legitimate case for it:
The VP choice can be…Obama. Not Michelle, but Barack.
“But Don, the 12th Amendment says that you have to be eligible to be President in order to be VP.” Given that he has already been President, he meets all of the qualifications.
“But Don again, the 22nd Amendment says he can’t be President again.”
It says that he can’t be elected President. It says nothing whatsoever about becoming President through other means, including being elected Vice-President and succeeding the President.
“But Don…you forget who controls the Supreme Court now”
Okay, you may have a point there…
You can’t expect everyone to join together in lockstep. There was at least one poster here who said they wouldn’t vote for Harris because she is too right wing. There is still a GOTF calculus.
I think it goes beyond blind bigotry. Before Biden’s age became the focus I would have said what the Democrats were most vulnerable on was Gaza. I’ve seen too many liberal millennials and younger (including family members) who are Democrats but stated they would rather vote for no one than vote for anyone who supports Isreal in Gaza. I don’t expect any viable candidate to be anti-Israel but Shapiro’s background and vocal support of Isreal would bring that to the forefront. The experts in election calculus may figure those voters aren’t a large enough group and his help getting Pennsylvania is more important.
I would assume it all needs to be sorted at the DNC convention. Who will run for president and who will be their VP.
I cannot see how they figure that out any sooner (officially…doubtless there will be a lot of jockeying between now and then).
ETA: While I 100% get Biden finishing out his term am I wrong in thinking that if he resigned as president and Harris assumed the office there would be no brokered convention in August? Harris would be the nominee with no fuss?
It gives us all the drama (and presumably tv ratings) of a “brokered” convention, but it doesn’t leave the party fractured by divisiveness about who should lead the ticket.
(And I’m another who wants Mark Kelly, although I think it’s funny that “white” and “male” are now the demographics being pandered to with a token choice).
On the plus side, he’s a white male with executive experience. On the minus side, he’s Jewish which (as stated above) may unfortunately be seen as a negative in this race. More importantly though Illinois is likely to go for Harris/Whoever anyway so he doesn’t bring any swing-state clout.
But I’d really love to hear Harris say, in that inimitable way of hers, “My running mate, who is as you know, a real billionaire…”
They don’t want drama. They want unity and strength. And I agree. She will announce before the convention. Whether it’s right before or sooner is the only question.
It will be a straight white Christian. I used to think that antisemitism was a thing of the past, but recent events have convinced me it has just been in hiding.
I would choose a governor and Newsom is from the same state as Harris. Maybe Beshear who is a very popular Dem in a very red state.
I very much doubt that Harris would announce a running mate before the convention. Even if every other major potential candidate has removed themselves from consideration, it would be enormously presumptuous of her to designate herself the Democratic Presidential candidate when literally no one has cast a vote for her for President.
That’s not to say she won’t – in close collaboration with other Democratic leaders – have already decided who her running mate will be.
Presidential candidates name running mates before the convention all the time, even when they haven’t secured the nomination (I remember Ted Cruz naming his VP candidate in 2016).
I don’t think she’ll announce it until it’s clear that she will be the nominee. What is not yet clear is whether that’ll already be an established fact (or at least an exceptionally likely probability) prior to the DNC (which is still another four weeks away).
Cruz named Fiorina as a last chance Hail Mary after he had clearly been trounced by Trump and needed a miracle. It was a desperation move. Harris has the opposite problem – she is all but guaranteed to be the nominee but has to be careful about this not coming off as an anti-democratic coronation made through backroom decision making. Hence her comments that she needs to “earn” the nomination.
So while I expect her to sew it up before the convention, I think she will be wary of public comments or actions that make it seem she’s taking the decision of the delegates for granted.
I’m very opposed to rich people buying political office, but Pritzker is my governor and he’s surprised me by doing a great job. But I don’t think he’s particularly charismatic and I’ve been somewhat surprised to see people touting him as a possible option.