He Hate Me FF Keeper League - Year 15

Munch.

I also think we may have banned that pick swapping thing because it’s so ridiculously bad for the league and we had a big debate about it years ago. I can’t remember if we actually banned it without digging through the old threads and I don’t have time right now.

We didn’t. The ban was raised but didn’t get enough votes (which is why Omni and Mundi are still complaining about it).

Okay, I dug it up and we did abolish this practice.

2013 arguments about it in case anyone is curious about the history.

Then we dug it up again in 2014.

There was a vote on the league page.

And then an announcement of the results, abolishing trading picks that people give up in order to keep players.

Huh. Oh well. Omni, I guess this means the deal’s off.

Varlos’ autodraft team is 2nd in the yahoo projections.

Someone do draft reviews please, you guys do good work and I look forward to reading them.

Draft results aren’t showing for me yet, aside from individual teams.

I may have been mistaken; if Hunt turns out well, I might be able to turn this team into a contender. And if wishes were fishes…

Got tied up with obligations and missed the draft. Guess I’ll do it again this year!

Heh Yahoo shows mine as the 4th-best draft (with 4 other teams very close or tied).

Goes to show how much you can trust software evaluations of drafts.

I’m rated 11th. :cool:

Well fuck. Things got crazy at my house, and I missed the draft. What a disaster of a team - wow! Oh good, both DEN WRs, AND their defense. If anyone is somewhat high on Sanders, lemme know - he’s cheap, I’d love to swap him for a RB.

I’m last! But I have a solidly mid-pack team, so I don’t really understand why. The draft grades assume that keepers are kept in the top rounds, so they’re effectively meaningless.

ETA: I’m not high on Sanders, but I’ll take him if you want DeAndre Washington.

Senor Beef, if you still want to do that trade, I’m in. (Beckham for McCoy)

I really hope my take on the current NFL, and its relationship to fantasy, is correct. With the RB position in the NFL becoming so fungible and the continuation of RBBC’s, I think, unless you get one of the studs, there just isn’t much reason to go reach for them. I’m more comfortable grabbing a solid WR, a great TE or QB, than I am hoping that a guy like CJ Anderson gets a heavy enough workload to become a stud. I went into this draft, and damn if you can’t tell it by my team. I have complete shit at RB, but one of the better WR crews out there.

I was really surprised that Zeke went before Julio, Beckham, and Green. I was shocked when Christian McCaffrey went before Cooper or Montgomery before Thomas and Hopkins, and Martin before Keenan Allen. I get that everyone hopes to get a true RB#1, but the insanely high value placed on the rookie running back class this year, and the fact they’re not actually going to likely be keepers, made it easier for me to draft WR’s than grab RB’s. Sure it left me with a bench full of part-timers (You’re not done yet Matt Forte! Give the ball to Chris Thompson more, dammit!!!) and backups (Breida for Hyde, Oliver for Gordon) and temp fill ins (C’mon Darren McFadden!), but I’m hoping I can piece together a couple starters each week.

I don’t love my team, and trying to figure out why the cosine of a 150 degree angle is negative the square root of 3 over two AND explaining it to a teenaged girl while drafting makes a mess of both, but I think I’ll compete. We shall see.

What you’re describing is basically the ZeroRBs strategy that became popular last year. But as something becomes popular it’s often good to go countercyclical against it, although I doubt that’s why so many RBs are being drafted early - it seems like a better year than recent years for dominant RB production.

I’m not seeing it. Sure David Johnson, LeVeon, LeSean, and maybe Melvin and DeMarco (although they have issues too) are worth their weight in gold, but I’m not feeling the love for “draft a guy and hope he’ll be the #1 and get enough carries”, especially the rookies. 4 rookie RB’s were taken in the top 20, and they each have huge question marks. Fournette hasn’t played, Cook may be fine, but I don’t see them giving a workhorse share of carries, McCaffrey is a great player, but will be used as all over and never be “the guy”, and it took an injury to get Hunt the starting gig (which, I’m guessing, will actually be a RBBC with West and Spiller taking carries). It seems like the fan’s mantra that since an elite QB is so important, anything that gets you even just a lottery chance at one is worth it, is coming true for the stud running back in fantasy.

Of course when I finish this year at 3-11, I’ll look back at this and cry a little.

Alright, let me get back to you. When I made the offer off the cuff I thought I liked it more than I did, simply because I don’t have a top tier automatic stud WR, but after thinking about it I’ve got a lot more WR depth than RB depth so I’m tenative about it.

Also, in case you guys are interested in more SDMB football stuff, the pick 'em and survival leagues are open.

I played briefly with the idea of going zero-RB, but for one thing it’s outside my comfort zone. I prefer a traditional strategy, love me some RB’s. And by the time my first pick came around, my choices were basically Gurley, Fournette, Dez, or Cooks (none of whom I particularly trust) before tiers fell off the cliff, with Baldwin, Garcon, and Jimmy Graham as keepers. I guess I could’ve gone ARod, but 1st round was too early for him (and I personally think so was the top of the 2nd).

As for Hunt, I have no problem drafting him as an RB2. Unfortunately, it cost me any shot at an elite QB. I didn’t expect the run to happen that quickly, and Beef snagged Wilson, who I really wanted, the pick before. Mariota (another player I don’t trust to make that jump) was the next available by the time we got to freaking pick 38. So I went with Fitz, which was the same effect as if I’d kept him, except I wouldn’t have Garcon. In retrospect I should’ve gone with Rivers or Stafford in the 5th, but Big Ben has so many weapons that I’ll at least have a shot in some weeks. (Unfortunately, week 1 isn’t one of them.) I have to hope I can pull off this Big Ben/Cutler/Bradford juggling act. Just to add to the fun, Irma throws yet another wrench I don’t need into things.

The fantasy gods have it in for me, I tellz ya. I expect I’ll end up working my ass off just to finish with a mediocre record and a shitty pick for next year. I just hope Goilladay will end up having a good enough year that it’s worth keeping him next season. I seriously doubt I’ll even make the playoffs.

That’s really easy to say when you have three top-10 RB’s. I was lucky to get one (and just barely). If someone had taken him instead of, say, A.J., I would’ve had no choice but to go zero-RB.

I know I’m biased towards getting RBs early, but even I am not sure of the wisdom of what I was thinking when I locked in on drafting Melvin Gordon third. I knew there was no way I would draft Elliot with the suspension hanging over him, McCoy felt to me to be too old, and I was burned by Gurley last year. And I couldn’t see picking any WR (Julio Jones, OBJ, or AJ Green) with the #3 pick… So that left me with Gordon.

Maybe it would have been much smarter to take Jones and worry about RBs later (I did have Crowell locked up as a keeper), but when I look at who I would have been choosing among at 2-12 and 3-3… yikes. I always prefer not having to worry about RBs.

In your place I’d’ve gone with McCoy. He’s pretty much the only game in town for a while (at least until Jordan Matthews comes back), where the Bolts have a bevy of weapons available, and he’s still versatile and quick. Of course, a lot would depend on your keepers; I was in a place where I was in dire need of a big back, but I still look for the RB first if doable.

My thing has always been that there are a lot more valuable WR’s than RB’s, and if you don’t get on the train early you’re SOL. Zero-RB is always higher risk, no matter how much this is supposed to be a passing league, especially with the advent of the dual-threat backs.