He Hate Me So Bad FF keeper league

The same breakdown for just the top 16 scoring defenses:

Best team average: 12.6
Average team avg: 18.375
Worst team average: 20.5

Points: 4,704
Games: 256
Mean: 18.375 (Average)
Median: 18.5 (Midpoint)
Mode: 17 (Most common)
StDev: 10.03

Bucketed Game Totals:

Gms %Of256 Points


012 04.69% 0
017 06.64% 1-6
062 24.22% 7-13
062 24.22% 14-20
061 23.83% 21-27
025 09.77% 28-34
017 06.64% 35+


256 100%

Another way to go would be to assign equivalence values to defensive stands. Consider what a “great”, “good” and “decent” day for a QB or RB would score. (Roughly, 20+, 16, and 10 points respectively.) Then use the bucketing percentages to try and map “great”, “good” and “decent” defensive stands. Doing that, I end up with:

Points Allowed 0 points (16)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (12)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (8)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (4)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-4)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-8)

The numbers I originally came up with were very close to these, but were then gravitationally pulled to the nice consistent 4-step tiers.

Dibs on the team that doesn’t want to play anymore!

Two still haven’t signed up yet.

Weirddave and Spiritus Mundi. I sent them both a reminder email earlier today.

Doing a search on their activity, Dave is still actively posting, so I have no worries about him signing up. Mundi, OTOH, has only posted maybe twice since the last He Hate Me thread, and the most recent one was back in January. That does not bode well. He really digs this league, so I’d hate to see him miss out.

I’m all for either quarterbacking one of the dormant teams until the person shows up or outright taking over. Of course, whatever’s necessary at the time, of course.
If you wish some of my input for defensive scoring, I like **Ellis Dee’s ** and it looks a lot like mine did when I ran a league. I also changed kickers. Missing an extra point lost you ten points (if I remember right), missing a 1-20 yarder lost you 5 points, and it went down as the ranges went back. I don’t know what ranges you guys are using, though. Consequently, I marginally increased the kicking values as well, to even it out.

I also gave defenses extra love for a safety. I always wondered if that was more a product of the defense, the inability of the opposing offense, or the special teams.

After three weeks, two emails, a private message, and bumping last year’s thread to fire off thread notifications, I still haven’t heard a peep from either Weirddave or Spiritus Mundi.

The trading period opens on Sunday. If they haven’t shown up by Monday, I’m tempted to give away their spots. I don’t want to do this, but it feels like they aren’t that interested.

Any thoughts?

ETA: I notice that we didn’t have a full complement of 14 owners for last year’s league until late July. So I’m extending the signup period and delaying the trading period by up to one month. Thus, offseason trading doesn’t open until August 1st, or whenever everyone joins; whichever comes first.

But Mundi’s the fucking man! He talks shit in Shakespearean!

I can’t help but feel like there’s no way neither of those guys want to be in the league, you know? But obviously there’s got to be a break point, and a thread, two emails and a private message is, I suppose, about all we can do. I just don’t like the idea of making the break point in June/July.

So one vote of support for the extension.

Extension is fine by me.

My thoughts exactly.

I opened both last year’s and this year’s league & thread at the same time: the first day yahoo leagues opened. Looking back at last year’s SDMB thread, however, Mundi didn’t make his first appearance until late July, and (IIRC) neuroman didn’t show up (or even join the yahoo league) until a few days after that.

For some reason I thought we had gotten started with trading in late June/early July, but I think I was just remembering my own personal planning of various trade proposals during that time.

As a general guidline, the yahoo league should continue opening as early as possible, but the entire months of June and July should be the grace period to sign up, leaving us the first three weeks of August for trading. I’d prefer a full month, but three weeks is sufficient.

The first priority is getting everybody back who wants to come back, and I think those guys are still interested.

Dammit.

I agree with pushing back the deadline until August/as late as possible. That’s plenty of time to get new, responsible owners should Mundi and Weirddave not show up. And I’m glad to see that RNATB and Least Original are interested.

I think I showed up late last year because I was barely reading SDMB at all, but as football season approached I thought of this league. (In fact, this fantasy league is the single biggest reason I have renewed my subscription to the SDMB in the last couple of years.)

Incidentally, you may not see me very active in the coming months for rules discussions, etc, although I will try to stay posted. I am in graduate school, and will be studying abroad.

I am here - my email has changed since last yar, and as others have noted I rarely particpate on this board anymore, so I did not receive any of Ellis’ notes until tonight (I suppose I have Scooter Libby to thank for it). I will be signing up in the yahoo league ASAP, and updating my email address there.

Last year was a sad descent into mediocrity for the Mundi’s (though I did win my cash league again, and a side bet with Omni that he still hasn’t made good.) This year I predict a proud return to . . . um, what were my keepers again? . . . Oh.

Nevermind.

I have not forgotten.

U trad me ham samwich 4 rites 2 vick???thnx

Do I at least get to be first alternate?

Sorry Charlie, Weirdos are in da house.

Now that I’m looking at this (I don’t usually turn my attention to FF until training camp opens, which is why I hadn’t registered yet), are the slots for the listed eligible keepers the round that they will cost us a pick in this year, or the round that they were picked in last year? So if I were to keep, say, Bulger, would that cost me a 5th round pick this year, or a third?

Third.

Welcome back, Dave.

Offseason trading opens tomorrow (Saturday) and runs for a month. Here’s the draft pick value chart:


1. Varlos' Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ)
01-01 (001): 1889
02-14 (028):  872
03-01 (029):  853
04-14 (056):  528
05-01 (057):  519
06-14 (084):  284
07-01 (085):  276
08-14 (112):  114
09-01 (113):  111
10-14 (140):   59
11-01 (141):   59
12-14 (168):   34
13-01 (169):   32
14-14 (196):    0
15-01 (197):    0
16-14 (224):    0

2. Trade Down for Kolb (Jimmy Chitwood)
01-02 (002): 1823
02-13 (027):  890
03-02 (030):  836
04-13 (055):  538
05-02 (058):  510
06-13 (083):  292
07-02 (086):  268
08-13 (111):  118
09-02 (114):  107
10-13 (139):   60
11-02 (142):   58
12-13 (167):   36
13-02 (170):   31
14-13 (195):    0
15-02 (198):    0
16-13 (223):    0

3. Baltimore Weirdos (Weirddave)
01-03 (003): 1759
02-12 (026):  910
03-03 (031):  820
04-12 (054):  547
05-03 (059):  500
06-12 (082):  300
07-03 (087):  261
08-12 (110):  122
09-03 (115):  103
10-12 (138):   61
11-03 (143):   57
12-12 (166):   37
13-03 (171):   29
14-12 (194):    0
15-03 (199):    0
16-12 (222):    0

4. Rhinosaurs(neuroman)
01-04 (004): 1699
02-11 (025):  931
03-04 (032):  804
04-11 (053):  557
05-04 (060):  491
06-11 (081):  308
07-04 (088):  253
08-11 (109):  127
09-04 (116):  100
10-11 (137):   61
11-04 (144):   57
12-11 (165):   39
13-04 (172):   27
14-11 (193):    0
15-04 (200):    0
16-11 (221):    0

5. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
01-05 (005): 1642
02-10 (024):  952
03-05 (033):  788
04-10 (052):  566
05-05 (061):  482
06-10 (080):  316
07-05 (089):  246
08-10 (108):  131
09-05 (117):   97
10-10 (136):   62
11-05 (145):   56
12-10 (164):   40
13-05 (173):   25
14-10 (192):    0
15-05 (201):    0
16-10 (220):    0

6. MunchsUrbanAchievers (Munch)
01-06 (006): 1587
02-09 (023):  975
03-06 (034):  773
04-09 (051):  576
05-06 (062):  473
06-09 (079):  325
07-06 (090):  239
08-09 (107):  136
09-06 (118):   94
10-09 (135):   63
11-06 (146):   56
12-09 (163):   42
13-06 (174):   23
14-09 (191):    0
15-06 (202):    0
16-09 (219):    0

7. DrewBrees'Birthmark (BabaBooey)
01-07 (007): 1535
02-08 (022):  998
03-07 (035):  759
04-08 (050):  586
05-07 (063):  464
06-08 (078):  333
07-07 (091):  231
08-08 (106):  141
09-07 (119):   91
10-08 (134):   64
11-07 (147):   55
12-08 (162):   43
13-07 (175):   21
14-08 (190):    1
15-07 (203):    0
16-08 (218):    0

8. CarMenace (Nurse Carmen)
01-08 (008): 1485
02-07 (021): 1023
03-08 (036):  745
04-07 (049):  596
05-08 (064):  455
06-07 (077):  341
07-08 (092):  224
08-07 (105):  146
09-08 (120):   88
10-07 (133):   65
11-08 (148):   55
12-07 (161):   44
13-08 (176):   20
14-07 (189):    1
15-08 (204):    0
16-07 (217):    0

9. 4th & 19 (Wilson)
01-09 (009): 1438
02-06 (020): 1049
03-09 (037):  732
04-06 (048):  606
05-09 (065):  446
06-06 (076):  350
07-09 (093):  217
08-06 (104):  151
09-09 (121):   86
10-06 (132):   66
11-09 (149):   54
12-06 (160):   45
13-09 (177):   18
14-06 (188):    1
15-09 (205):    0
16-06 (216):    0

10. Solomon Mundi (Spiritus Mundi)
01-10 (010): 1393
02-05 (019): 1076
03-10 (038):  719
04-05 (047):  616
05-10 (066):  437
06-05 (075):  358
07-10 (094):  211
08-05 (103):  156
09-10 (122):   83
10-05 (131):   67
11-10 (150):   53
12-05 (159):   46
13-10 (178):   16
14-05 (187):    2
15-10 (206):    0
16-05 (215):    0

11. In Rex We Trust (Omniscient)
01-11 (011): 1351
02-04 (018): 1105
03-11 (039):  707
04-04 (046):  627
05-11 (067):  428
06-04 (074):  367
07-11 (095):  204
08-04 (102):  161
09-11 (123):   81
10-04 (130):   69
11-11 (151):   53
12-04 (158):   47
13-11 (179):   14
14-04 (186):    3
15-11 (207):    0
16-04 (214):    0

12. Moridwon (Hamlet)
01-12 (012): 1310
02-03 (017): 1135
03-12 (040):  694
04-03 (045):  638
05-12 (068):  419
06-03 (073):  375
07-12 (096):  197
08-03 (101):  167
09-12 (124):   79
10-03 (129):   70
11-12 (152):   52
12-03 (157):   48
13-12 (180):   12
14-03 (185):    4
15-12 (208):    0
16-03 (213):    0

13. Mexico City PitBulls (furt)
01-13 (013): 1272
02-02 (016): 1167
03-13 (041):  682
04-02 (044):  648
05-13 (069):  410
06-02 (072):  384
07-13 (097):  191
08-02 (100):  173
09-13 (125):   77
10-02 (128):   72
11-13 (153):   52
12-02 (156):   49
13-13 (181):   10
14-02 (184):    6
15-13 (209):    0
16-02 (212):    0

14. Crabby Hermits (The Mad Hermit)
01-14 (014): 1235
02-01 (015): 1200
03-14 (042):  671
04-01 (043):  660
05-14 (070):  402
06-01 (071):  393
07-14 (098):  185
08-01 (099):  179
09-14 (126):   75
10-01 (127):   73
11-14 (154):   51
12-01 (155):   50
13-14 (182):    9
14-01 (183):    7
15-14 (210):    0
16-01 (211):    0

Remember that if you are keeping a guy in a round where you have a high pick, try to trade that pick down for a low one in the same round and pocket the difference. Keepers are tied to rounds, not picks.

I’ve sent a pair of you guys trade proposals via Yahoo email over the last few days with no response. May want to check that out.