Help save my sister's life?

Well, she lost her husband overseas, (http://www.nola.com/military/fallen/index.ssf?/military/fallen/content/sixdead_010605.html) and met this guy shortly after. She went to therapy for a whole three weeks, took the medication and diagnosed herself as healed. I guess there could be some connection between losing my brother-in-law and putting up with this, but we were all devastated by it… and I’m certainly not allowing any other guy to put his hands on me. It doesn’t make sense. Maybe there’s just some defect that has been hidden away inside her brain that makes this stuff allowable.

I don’t like to believe that some event, could just completely change your life and what you view as right or wrong.

Thank you for welcoming me. I feel greatful for every response I’ve gotten, I hope everyone knows that.

The serenity prayer is nice, I like what I think it means. I don’t know how this prayer, or any prayer works, but I have definitely dug in and asked myself to accept things I cannot change, and I’ve asked the universe to help me accept things I cannot change, and it hasn’t worked. It’s hard to accept something you can’t wrap your mind around, something you can’t understand. I mean, for me anyway. I guess as much as I want her healthy, as much as I keep denying this, I also want to understand why she and other people do the sick things that they do.

I like what you said here: “Nobody makes us do things, we choose to do things. Nobody has control over us, we choose to give up control. But even if we choose to give up control we are still responsible for our own actions”

I wish there were some way you could magically make everyone read that and understand that.
“I don’t know why people stay in abusive relationships. Perhaps they feel trapped. Perhaps they feel somehow responsable. Perhaps they feel that they can “change” somebody, this abusive asshat can be reformed into a decent human being and it’s their job to do it.”

I would really like to understand that myself. Until I do, I’ll just have to assume something is wrong with their brains, the same way some people can’t see color. That sounds ridiculous, but it’s something.

Yeah, I definitely understand that she’s trapped because she wants to be. She’s financially able to leave and go anywhere, she’s been supporting him, not the other way around. She could have stopped it at anytime, and she hasn’t. Which is why I posted here, I was hopeful that I would read something and pass it along, something that would finally make her realize the situation for what it is, and help her to leave. Though, I’m reading some things that are helping me to realize things I’ve already been afraid of… like I am mostly powerless, destined to sit on the sidelines waiting for her to either accept what has been happening and make a change or else end up in a grave. It makes sense, though. You can’t force someone to change their life unless they want to. And clearly she doesn’t want to.

Still, it helps to read all of this. And it helps to be reminded that I’m not alone, so thank you for that.

Yeah, I am doing a lot of blaming. It’s really not productive… sometimes I just feel like I’ve run out of ways to reach her and figure maybe if I say it enough she’ll eventually hear me. I understand that it’s wrong, and I won’t be doing it again.

I’m sorry you know what I’m going through, it’s terrible that these situations happen, but it does make me feel a little better knowing you understand what it’s like to be involved in these things.

Yeah, I think the bigger part of me knows that there is no string of words that are going to magically make her accept the reality of things, that there is nothing I can say or even do physically that will change it, I am just finally after over two years of this at a breaking point, where I don’t think I can stand it in my life. I wanted some kind of fix, something I could show to her and say “See?” and she would read it and feel SOMETHING, maybe ashamed of herself would be a good start, and she would be forced to make positive changes.

I hope your sister stays clean.

Yeah, I was thinking about contacting the police. The thing about that is, she will just keep bailing him out of jail, like she has been. I would only be helping her to waste even more of her money. I used to believe that the relationship would end one of two ways: one or both of them would end up in jail, or one or both of them would end up dead. Well, they’ve been in several car accidents (one very serious one) and have even both been in jail. Several times. Facing death hasn’t changed either of them, and jail is not a big deal to them since she has the means to keep them bailed out and out of trouble. She always uses that War Widow thing to her advantage, since a lot of the officers know who she is. It SEEMS like she gets a kick out of them being lenient on her because they think she’s just messed up due to the Iraq travesty. I don’t know.

That court date is in August, so here’s hoping.

If you will allow an old man to indulge in a little more psycho-babble I think I can shed light on the Serenity Prayer.

The first thing that helps is to strip it of the presumptions of religion. Forget about Jesus, Abraham, Buddha and Ganish. Only pay attention to what the words are saying to you. If the nature of the message falls within your personal beliefs then great but if not then don’t sweat it, it’s the message that counts not the messenger.

There is a specific reason the three virtues in this prayer are listed in this order: this order expresses their difficulty, their importance and their value. Accepting the things we cannot change is the hardest. Sometimes I like to compair this to letting go of our troubles.

Imagine you are on a bridge over a bottomless pit. You have something that is troubling you in your hand and people tell you to let go, so you stick it in your pocket. Nope, you didn’t let it go you just put it back for future reference. Suppose you held it out in front of you and literally let go of it, causing it to drop on the bridge at your feet. Nope, you went through the motions of letting go but did not truely let it go. Now suppose you hold what is troubling you over the edge and let go. It falls into the bottomless pit and is gone forever. You can remember it, you can learn from it, but it is no longer in your life anywhere and can no longer directly affect you. The memory can affect you but, because our memories are part of our minds and we control our minds we can choose how this memory affects us, it has no more power over us than we give it.

That’s what letting go means and that’s what accepting the things you cannot change means. The universe will not help you, you must help yourself. You must let go.

Changing the things you can takes courage but, as the end of the prayer points out, you must know the difference. This takes wisdom and patience.

I hope this helps,
N8

Have you asked how she thinks he would think of her current situation, were he alive?

She’s a drug addict, and he’s a drug addict and they are co-dependent. That is all there is. Morality, self respect, physcial abuse, mental abuse etc. ad nauseam is just white noise against the drugs.

There is nothing you can can do until she breaks or dies.

Re her losing her husband in combat typical military widow payoutsappear to be around $100,000 to $400,000 depending on the military insurance her carried . Is that what they are living on?

Yeah, she had gotten over 400,000 because some more things passed in government so she had gotten a few more checks, in addition to that he had a private policy so that she would be taken care of. Most of that money is gone now, due to law trouble, drugs and theft.

Of course. It’s a dishonor if anything. Anytime I bring up his name, or anyone does, she gets upset and says it’s “not fair” and she doesn’t want to hear it.

If there really is an afterlife, and you maintain your memories and the ability to still see and think, then I’m sorry for him that he has to see all this.

I don’t have any specific personal beliefs, sometimes I wish I did. But even so, I can still appreciate the message. I copied what you wrote about the bridge over the pit and pasted it into a notepad. I plan to read it a lot more, until i learn it and live it. I don’t know if that sort of thing can happen immediately, it would be nice, but if it takes time I’m okay with that too. Maybe I can grow up into a sane, peaceful adult after all. Thank you again.

Unfortunately, I think astro is right. Drugs can become the most important thing in someone’s life to the point that they will tolerate this kind of horrifying situation.
Beyond that, I agree with the advice to tell her that you will help her if she decides she wants to get out of this situation. That’s all you really can or should do at this point.

Oh, and this doesn’t sound like bipolar behavior. He may very well be bipolar too (many mentally ill people have more than one diagnosis) and of course nobody can diagnose him over the internet, but this kind of behavior sounds more like anti-social personality disorder to me.
And, no, they don’t change.

I will strongly echo the suggestion about Al-Anon. It’s probably the single best thing you can do for your sister and yourself right now. You will hear how other people have learned to deal with an addict in the family, and you will learn strategies for protecting your own emotional health.

In some sense, you’re addicted to your sister, and it’s dragging you down. You’re having panic attacks, you’re enduring threats of violence, and you’re completely wrapped up with her problems.

You shouldn’t try to go through this alone. You need help. For yourself, first. And once you’re on a more stable path yourself, you’ll be in a better position to help your sister.

Welcome to the Dope. I read your post… that sounds horrible.

What do your parents have to say about all this?

Thanks for the welcoming. There are no parents to speak of, it’s just she and I.

Oh. I’m sorry to hear that. Next rude and personal question, how old are both of you?

Lot’s of good advice in this thread so far.
So I will just say welcome to the dope, and remind you of the definition of insanity.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Your sister keeps going back with this guy, and he abuses her. They break up, get back together and later, rinse, repeat. But it will be different this time! She says. Why will it be different, what has changed? Answer, nothing has changed, so the outcome will not change either.
It is not going to change until the cycle stops.

With the guy having attacked you and now threatening to kill you, I think I would handle this situation the Intervention way. She is addicted to this person and this behavior, and it’s causing you a lot of heartache and personal danger. I’d sadly tell her that I couldn’t have a relationship with her as long as she was with him. She is making a choice every day to be with him and tolerate his abuse. You can only feel sorry for her for so long before you have to realize that she does have some responsibility. She needs to make a big choice between living normally and happily with closeness to her family, or living with him. That’s my take on it, and that’s basically how I’ve handled the same situation with my mother, who chooses to be in an abusive relationship for 43 years now.

And, if you were to choose this approach, you should have several other people there that are even semi-close to her taking the same stand, and a therapist- a local shelter may be able to hook you up with that.