Did you read the thread?
Anyone who thinks THIS is the last straw is an idiot for not seeing the thousand last straws before it.
If a woman welcomes it and wants it, then it is consensual.
But, did you read the thread?
Dude, you can be in and going for the short strokes and the instant the woman says STOP, that removes consent and you stop. It really isn’t rocket science.
Jesus, times have changed. Back in the day a youngster would try to get to first base. If there were no objection he’d try for second (not quite ‘grabbing for her crotch’ but not far removed). If there were still no objection and the girl was responsive Nature would take its course. From what some of you are saying you’d need a signed and witnessed contract of consent and even that could probably be torn apart by a smart lawyer.
Thank fuck I’m not a young man in this day and age.
Thank fuck you weren’t a woman in yours.
I really get tired of having to tell you clowns to fuck off. I wish that at least one of you would say something intelligent instead of spouting shit like parrots on crack. Especially when what I posted was correct and you know it.
You first.
**Bullitt **got the point a ways back and said so. The example that changed his mind was when someone asked him (paraphrasing), “If a guy reaches into your pocket and grabs your wallet and you don’t punch him out, does that mean you consented?” And he said that made him think and thanks for helping him learn something.
Why are y’all still pounding on him? Read the whole thread.
People don’t ordinarily consent to having their property taken. People regularly consent to sexual touch.
When it’s mutual. When someone(especially with a massive imbalance of power, money, prestige) just walks up and grabs your junk, that’s not consensual.
Fine, I’ll change it up, instead of some guy stealing you wallet he comes up from behind you, grabs your balls and kisses your neck, not in a violent way, in a nice way, you actually just think it’s your wife/gf.
You didn’t say no or pull away (at least not right away)…therefore you gave consent, right? Because people regularly give consent to sexual touch and since you didn’t say no, ‘yes’ was implicit. Look I’m as on the fence about the ‘yes means yes’ thing as the next guy, but you still can’t just grab someone or walk up to a stranger and kiss them.
Ah, the irony. No, what you posted is blatantly false, and examples have been given in this thread. All your remarks demonstrate is your own stupidity and how utterly you are blinded by partisanship.
If you are tired of being ridiculed, either 1) stop posting incredibly stupid shit; 2) don’t post at all. It appears, however, that the first strategy is not open to you.
Dr. Dunning, meet Dr. Kruger. Oh, I see you already know each other, good.
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Fine, I’ll change it up, instead of some guy stealing you wallet he comes up from behind you, grabs your balls and kisses your neck, not in a violent way, in a nice way, you actually just think it’s your wife/gf.
You didn’t say no or pull away (at least not right away)…therefore you gave consent, right? Because people regularly give consent to sexual touch and since you didn’t say no, ‘yes’ was implicit. Look I’m as on the fence about the ‘yes means yes’ thing as the next guy, but you still can’t just grab someone or walk up to a stranger and kiss them.
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Exactly. Its the circumstances of each transaction as a whole which have to be considered before you can say whether or not there was reasonable expectation of consent. A boss and an employee with a massive power differential; yes exactly, you cannot reasonably say that it was consensual; indeed I have gone on record saying that it is difficult to ascertain whether there ever is real consent in such cases. Fondling a stranger in the High Street, yes no one reasonably can expect there to be such invitations.
Someone you meet in a singles bar and strike up a conversation with? More difficult.
Giving your spouse of many years (or hell your child or parent) a spontaneous hug or kiss. Of course, its reasonable to expect consent there, unless you have prior knowledge that its is not wanted.
I don’t support trump and I never really have, however I do think it ironic that nobody cares about the actual rapes and sexual assaults of Hillary’s husband.
Not really. Trump had me at promising to torture people. His coming out in favour of sexually assaulting people is just strawberry jam to top it off.
:rolleyes:
Woman! Control your Husband!
Apologies, I thought the tone of my post was fairly clear with respect to the excuses being offered up by Trump supporters for his statements. Also, it was in “Elections” not GD. I’m not clear why all posts in elections have to be presented as a “debate” vs some just being informational.
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