Also, after Peter visited the Prognostipainter, Isaac seems to have lost the ability to do the good paintings–his girlfriend had to come to the studio and scrounge up enough of the good ones to put in the art show, and he was behind on submissions for his comic book.
He wouldn’t sell her the paintings of the future, and those were the good ones she wanted. I think he had also been resisting the need to shoot up to prognostipaint.
Also, the static Niki saw when she looked at the camcorder might not have been real, at that same time she lost ~4 hours of memory. But even if Niki does send out EM static or something, Nathan is out of the frying pan and into the fire, don’t you think?
Re: Peter’s “scar”. Nathan has one, Peter doesn’t (currently, anyway).
Has anyone considered that Future-Hiro travelled back in time and and somehow just got the wrong brother? Did he ever address Peter specifically as Peter?
Whatever scar Nathan has, since I don’t remember what it looks like, I’d guess isn’t enough of a scar to cause Hiro not to recognize him, or to confuse Peter with Nathan. I’m thinking the scar in Peter’s future is something more along the lines of a fairly majorly facially-disfiguring kind of scar.
That’s what I’m thinking, too. Like a big honkin’ rip across the eye socket. Poor Emo Nurse. 
Also, I’m pretty sure I remember Hiro calling him Peter just before the scar line, jay-c, but I can’t go back and check right now.
nope, sorry, you heard wrong. she most definitely said “our”.
other than that, sounds like your other theories are pretty tight.
Dammit that’s brilliant. I should have remembered that.
Let’s hope the writers remember.
Well, I hate to bring this up, but garygnu’s post gives me pause. Perhaps dopple-niki erased the tape (she certainly had the time). Or maybe Niki is not operating the camera correctly or she forgot to rewind the tape.
when Nikki was watching the video straight off the camera (while sitting in her car), it showed the portion where Thug #1 was telling her to strip for them – up to the point where he first slugged her when she got defiant. then all you saw was static… but i’m pretty sure we heard a lot of screaming.
so either Nikki II does the EMP thing, or else she somehow erased only the picture portion on the video. (can you do that?)
… or the static on the video was from Niki’s point of view due to the fact that at the time she was waching it, her powers were activating and Evil Niki was taking over. The tape may be perfectly fine and shows her doing her thing.
that’s getting a bit too mystical for me. how do you get an inanimate object to see from a non-camera-wielder’s point of view?
or are you saying that Nikk I is blocking herself from watching Nikki II’s handiwork? and if she is, exactly how is she aware that Nikki II is now emerging on tape? i can buy her conciousness subsuming itself when she senses the “change” occurring, but to be able to sense that from a piece of celluloid is stretching the point a bit.
Well, first, I went into this series with the idea that the science was probably going to be a bit sloppy. Same thing with Lost and Smallville. Ya gotta suspend your disbelief sometimes.
My theory is that there is nothing wrong with the camera or the recorded imagery, regardless of whether it’s on tape, film or digital. It’s Niki’s perception of it, which got thrown off because her two personalities were passing like ships in the night, and that caused her to see it as distorted. If she watches it again and doesn’t channel Evil Niki, she might see herself getting very violent.
I don’t have a whole lot of faith in this theory; I just proposed it as yet another goofy-science possibility. Too much Star Trek, I guess.
I was thinking she’s like the Hulk too, but with regard to her strength. If she’s only a little pissed at you, you get beat up and a stern talking-to. If she’s beserker-mad at you, you get torn in half or a car dropped on you or something.
A) Peter has to touch you. Makes sense. He hadn’t touched his brother recently when he was somehow getting the feeling he could fly, but hadn’t flown yet. It wasn’t until he jumped off the roof and his brother had to catch him that Peter got the power to fly. He didn’t get Isaac’s power until he touched him.
B) Peter only has to be near you. In that case, he’d been hanging around his brother a lot, so he really should have already had the flight power unless it doesn’t last long and it had been a few hours since he was last near his brother. Being five stories up, he was still too far away from his brother to copy his power.
Peter either stole the power and that’s why his brother dropped him or, he didn’t steal the power but shared/copied it. If he stole the power he could still have crash landed because he was already traveling down at a high velocity and hasn’t practiced with the power. “Hey, how do I stop!” But if he stole the power a la Rogue, Nathan should have crash landed. From what I remember, Nathan landed safely. So, Peter shares/copies powers, and doesn’t have to touch you. Maybe the effect is more intense if you touches you.
That Nathan dropped his brother is actually easy to believe without power-stealing. His brother weighs say, 160lbs and he was accelerating towards the ground pretty fast. His brother was moving up, and didn’t get a good enough grip to stop the both of them. We don’t know exactly how Nathan’s flying ability works, but if he can only carry as much weight as he could standing on the ground, then it’s no surprise he couldn’t hold on to his brother. The best Nathan could do was grab onto him, spin him around and try to slow the fall. If he had actually caught his brother in both arms like Superman, it could have been disastrous.
Future Hiro in the subway. Hiro teleports in, freezes time and approaches Peter. If Peter steals powers by being near you, would Hiro find himself trapped in his own time-freeze? How does that work? Hiro has to concentrate to freeze time, then concentrate again to unfreeze it, but doesn’t seem to need to concentrate while it’s frozen. If he does nothing, time resumes after a few moments anyway. I assume future Hiro has more control over how long it will stay frozen before naturally resuming.
So again, I’m guessing Peter shares/copies powers and that’s why he didn’t freeze, and Hiro didn’t get stuck in his own time-freeze. One small problem though. How far away from Peter was Hiro when he stopped time? What would have been cool was if Peter froze along with Mohinder, but then slowly “resumed” as Hiro approached. Is Peter always immune to the effects of other super beings, even if he isn’t currently sharing their power?
I just has a sad thought. Does Ando die next week?
We have to assume Hiro isn’t omnipotent, and because there’s a future Hiro, he doesn’t die. Young, enthusiastic heroes who are thrilled to have powers will usually, pretty quickly, experience a tragedy that gives them a more grave respect for their powers, and a stronger sense of responsibility about how they use them.
Next week, are we going to learn that - for whatever reason they make up - Hiro can’t just go back in time and put the cards back? Will Ando be the one who pays the price and Hiro can’t fix it? Didn’t Hiro finally get to the end of the comic book and it ended with “to be continued?” Hiro doesn’t know what’s going to happen to Ando.
I hope I’m wrong. I like Ando.
Absolutely not. Hiro still has to eat, sleep and pee. He bleeds. He can be caught unawares…as noted in this episode, it’s hard to use your power if you’re punched in the face…especially if it requires a level of conscious thought.
Hell, I can thing of 1/2 dozen means to lay out Hiro, without relying on ‘comic book’ science. Sure you can write Hiro into a Deus ex machina, but that’s just sloppy and lazy writing.
This is pretty much what I was trying to imply.
Is Niki the only ‘hero’ who hasn’t realized they have some sort of special power? Until this week she’s been very disconnected from the rest of the heroes, both plot-wise and in attitude. I wonder if/when she will have the kind of epiphany that Hiro, Peter, and recently Isaac have had about being special and a destined hero. Claire and Matt also know clearly they’re in a supernatural situation and have used their powers for good. Nathan knows, but we don’t know how much yet for storytelling reasons.
Future-Hiro calls him “Peter Petrelli” directly.
And alt-Niki (there is just the one K in her name) definitely says “our.” The scene was just this second on SciFi.
Entertainment Weekly spoiled something about Nikki’s husband. I spoiler box it for those who want to read it…I know I didn’t…
It is the mind wipe guy played by Leonard Roberts! Cocksuckers at EW!
Do I have to go over this again?
…Leonard Roberts does not play the mind-wipe guy.
Not sure why you spoilered that bit of info, but for consistency’s sake, and in case there really is something spoilerish about it that I just don’t get, I’ll go ahead and spoiler the following as well, as it does include definite spoilers that come from an episode on this weekend’s TV Guide “inFANity” show, where they went behind-the-scenes on location with Heroes (how was that for a run-on sentence, huh?). . .
[spoiler] There are two different bald black men in two different roles on this show. The only one we’ve seen on screen so far is Jimmy Jean-Louis, who plays “Mysterious Man”. It is Jimmy Jean-Louis’s character who was in the bar with the cop, as well as with Claire’s father when they had the cop strapped to the table. Here is a screen cap of Claire’s father with that man, when they were standing over Niki and Nathan.
We haven’t yet seen Leonard Roberts on the show – his character has only been mentioned by other characters so far. It is Leonard Roberts’s character who is Nikki’s ex-husband, DL Hawkins.
During an interview with Leonard Roberts on the above-mentioned show, he not only said that his character is, indeed, Nikki’s ex-husband, but that he, too, has “powers,” though I don’t recall that they specified what they were. The actor then went on to speculate as to the interesting developments that could transpire wrt their son, who has two parents with powers.
If the episode cast list at IMDB can be trusted, DL will finally make an actual appearance in tonight’s episode.[/spoiler]
Am I the only one who didn’t think Peter “borrowed/stole” Hiro’s power in the subway? When Hiro showed up, I just assumed that at the point in time Hiro came from, he had developed his power to the point of being able to travel back in time, freeze the time he entered into, and also allow someone else to not be frozen with him, i.e. Peter.