Heroes 11/26/07 - "Truth & Consequences" (SPOILERS)

[QUOTE=Rubystreak]
Oh, I don’t know. Peter Petrelli is giving her a run for her money. How many people have to tell each of them that their hero is a murderer and an evil schemer?

If Peter electrocutes Hiro, I hope Sylar eats his brain (though that puts me in mind of the joke where you put your hand on someone’s head and say, “This is a brain sucker. What’s it doing? Starving to death.”)
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I hope Hiro leaves Peter an appropriate “gift”.
Wink wink nudge nudge!!

[QUOTE=Lightray]
Mohinder is the only person who really believes that the Company is up to good. They’re keeping the virus around for the same reason that they wanted to blow up NY last season. Because they’re the Bad Guys. That’s what bad guys do.

For all their vague efforts at moral ambiguity, Heroes tends to stick tight to its sterotypes. I’m half surprised that Bob doesn’t have a Persian cat to stroke while he monologues, really.

Okay, it actually appears that at some point the Company had a scheme to cause a disaster that would unify everyone and which the Company could then swoop in as the savoir to control everything. That was Linderman’s plot with Angela (and Mr. Devereaux?) last season. Appears to have been Adam’s plot with the virus, before. And may still be Bob’s plot now. Mind you, how this would all work out is as vague as any underpants gnome plot, but this is Heroes so we’re going with that apparently.
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Bob? with a cat?
Nonsense!!
We all know he’s Goldfinger. :stuck_out_tongue:

[QUOTE=ouryL]

We all know he’s Goldfinger. :stuck_out_tongue:
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Ugh… Booooooo

:smiley:

[QUOTE=Otto]
Bob has said several times that they want to use the virus to strip people of overly dangerous powers without killing them.
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They seem pretty casual about killing in general, though, which is why their occasional hesitation makes no sense. They knew Adam was immortal, so let’s give him a life sentence! Or you could just, y’know… KILL him!

I think we did see Victoria’s ability. I think it’s as simple as manipulating viruses. Not very useful unless it helps you get a job with an evil company.

Hiro should have teleported directly to the virus gotten it out of the way and then gone after Adam.

I wonder if the Maya/Sylar storyline is a bait and switch thing like last year’s exploding man? Last year it could have been Ted, Sylar or Peter who exploded New York. This year we have a virus, a super with super virus-like killing abilities and another super who’s batshit crazy and will probably take he power. Perhaps the Shanti virus will be stopped but then we’ll have the Sylar virus? Those who are able to survive the Sylar virus will be left with crazy eyebrows.

[QUOTE=Gozu Tashoya]
And while that’s all true, I can’t help but wonder if it would have hurt hit to spend a few more moments of frozen time telling Peter exactly what’s going on with his buddy Adam over there.
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He wasn’t exactly detail-oriented the last time he froze time to talk to Peter.

“Save the cheerleader, save the world.”
“What?”
“Later.” ::poof::
So, are Noah’s glasses gone forever, or are his eyes going to regenerate with the same poor eyesight?

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
They seem pretty casual about killing in general, though, which is why their occasional hesitation makes no sense. They knew Adam was immortal, so let’s give him a life sentence! Or you could just, y’know… KILL him!
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If they’d killed Adam they wouldn’t have a live immortal to study. If they’d been able to take custody of Claire then they could’ve offed Adam but not before.

Radically different circumstances. Then, Future-Hiro was supposedly risking a temporal rift by travelling back to that point.

[QUOTE=Otto]
If they’d killed Adam they wouldn’t have a live immortal to study. If they’d been able to take custody of Claire then they could’ve offed Adam but not before.
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Didn’t they originally have custody of Claire, turning her over to Noah?

For that matter, why are they keeping Noah alive?

This show makes no sense!

[QUOTE=Morbo]

So, are Noah’s glasses gone forever, or are his eyes going to regenerate with the same poor eyesight?
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His eyes aren’t necesarily damaged, as far as his body sees it. Maybe his genes code for eyes where the lens shape is less than ideal - then if the regenerative powers restored him to his genetic ideal, then he’d still need glasses. That’s more likely, I think, than regenerative powers “knowing” what was objective best, although the powers are silly so it’s pretty nitpicky.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
Didn’t they originally have custody of Claire, turning her over to Noah?
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They didn’t know that Claire had a power at all, let alone that she specifically had a healing factor, when they turned her over to Bennet when she was an infant. Bennet was instructed to relinquish her should she manifest an ability, but didn’t.

“They” aren’t. Mohinder is.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
Didn’t they originally have custody of Claire, turning her over to Noah?
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  1. You seem to be assuming that they knew when she was an infant what superpower she developed. We’ve seen no indication that is the case. In fact, last season sort-of implied that the Company didn’t even know she had a power.

  2. They thought that turning her over to Noah was them having custody of Claire.

  3. The whole thing was set up by Angela, anyway, who seems rather protective of her family in her weird, evil way. I doubt she would’ve been happy with them experimenting on Claire when they still had Adam-who-tried-to-kill-everyone to experiment on. It was Bob who wanted to bring Claire in – after he’d lost Adam.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
For that matter, why are they keeping Noah alive?
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I suspect the reason may be lost with the later half of Season Two, alas.

Anybody know what the actors’ contracts are like? Any guarentee they’ll have all the actors available after the strike, even? Zachary Quinto, at least, I kinda expect would walk if he gets the chance, since his career seems moving. (or it was. until the strike.)

[QUOTE=Lightray]

Anybody know what the actors’ contracts are like? Any guarentee they’ll have all the actors available after the strike, even? Zachary Quinto, at least, I kinda expect would walk if he gets the chance, since his career seems moving. (or it was. until the strike.)
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I don’t know where else the actors can go. If no one is writing anything then there’s nothing new to do. Unless studios start pulling finished manuscripts out of the reject pile and shooting them as is then there’s nothing else for actors to do but wait for their shows to resume.

Didn’t they say that they had to see if Claire’s blood worked to resurrect people, in reference to Noah?

[QUOTE=Wile E]
I don’t know where else the actors can go. If no one is writing anything then there’s nothing new to do. Unless studios start pulling finished manuscripts out of the reject pile and shooting them as is then there’s nothing else for actors to do but wait for their shows to resume.
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Although I can’t think of any of the cast who’re British, the writers’ strike has not shut down movies and television in the entire world. Even then, television and movies are not the only stages around. There are options if they want to pursue them.

[QUOTE=SenorBeef]
Didn’t they say that they had to see if Claire’s blood worked to resurrect people, in reference to Noah?
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Yes, I believe there was uncertainty as to whether her blood could do what they hoped it could do. And did.

Didn’t Adam act a bit like he was pretty sure his blood could heal, but hadn’t actually tried it before? That seemed strange. You’d think the Company would have tested that sometime in the last 30 years, and you’d think it would have occurred to Adam sometime after blood transfusions became commonly practiced.

What has Adam been up to all this time anyway? It’s like he disappeared 400 years ago and reappeared around 1970. The writers have managed to make him a bit boring.

Maybe they knew Adam’s blood worked, but weren’t sure about Claire.

That actually would give them a pretty plausible reason to keep Adam alive all this time, as a blood farm. And when they lost him, they stepped up their efforts to get Claire, and then tested her blood on Noah to be sure. Makes sense.

Except that they told Claire she wouldn’t be hunted down at the end.

[QUOTE=Lightray]
Anybody know what the actors’ contracts are like? Any guarentee they’ll have all the actors available after the strike, even? Zachary Quinto, at least, I kinda expect would walk if he gets the chance, since his career seems moving. (or it was. until the strike.)
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Aren’t five year contracts for leads pretty standard?

I get the feeling video games may have some nice voices in the for a bit.

[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]
But that is different than strain 138.
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Right. The vial of 138 is still in the vaults in Texas. Why The Company has kept it around for 30 years is the 800 pound gorilla in the corner. If they’ve been intending to use it, why haven’t they? If not, why didn’t they destroy it 30 years ago?

What Mohinder has in his “works” case is an antidote formulated from Claire’s blood and a different strain of the virus. Sylar/Gabriel, using Molly as hostage, is going to demand a shot that will give his powers back. Here’s the mystery - Niki has a virus, when and if she gets Mohinder’s vaccine will she lose her multiple-personality tendency but keep her powers? And Sabriel/Gylar thinks he has a virus that has taken his accumulated powers. All he needs is a fix of Mohinder’s joy juice and he’s back to eating brains? Seems like a one-size-conveniently-fits-all plot device.

One last odd bit. In the teaser spots that NBC has been running all week, Hiro appears behind Peter and puts the Samurai sword up to Peter’s throat. Peter, seeing the sword, mutters in recognition, “Hiro!” After tonight’s banzai charge, I somehow don’t think we’re gonna see it.

Speaking of teasers, in the strip at the end of this week’s show, we see Claire opening the door and there’s Noah! Wearing glasses. The transfusion must not have cured his myopia (the literal one. Who knows about the figurative?)