Heroes 12/4: "Fallout"

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Oh, and what was the deal with Peter’s repeated coughing fits? If he was sick before encountering Claire at the high school he should have healed from the illness (assuming her power extends to illness and not just injury) and if he got sick in jail then, again, when Claire visited he should’ve taken on her powers and healed.
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I think the coughing has to do with what happened to him at the end.

He slipped into a coma due to having absorbed too many powers too close together—first Claire’s, then telepacop, then Claire’s again, then his brother’s.

That was my thought as well.

[QUOTE=DocCathode]
Re The Dinosaur

Since it seemed to be breathing fire, I’m guessing it turns out to be part of a display at a comicbook convention. The last con I was at had a ten foot tall (and equally wide) robot with glowing red eyes. A twenty foot tall firebreathing dinosaur would be a safety hazard, but would not be out of place. The sword could be merchandise from another vendor.
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I didn’t notice any fire breathing.

[QUOTE=Wile E]
At first I thought that was Godzilla in the picture. After another look I decided it looked like a Carnataurus. But why would Hiro need to go that far into the past?
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He didn’t need to go six months in the past to save Charlie; he intended to go one day. Obviously he doesn’t have total over his powers yet. We’ve conjectured before (Hi Meeko!) that Hiro seems to have nailed down stopping time, but not travelling through it.

[QUOTE=DocCathode]
Re The Dinosaur

Since it seemed to be breathing fire, I’m guessing it turns out to be part of a display at a comicbook convention. The last con I was at had a ten foot tall (and equally wide) robot with glowing red eyes. A twenty foot tall firebreathing dinosaur would be a safety hazard, but would not be out of place. The sword could be merchandise from another vendor.
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I missed the fire-breathing part. Hmm … perhaps it is a dinosaur but it’s a mutant dinosaur! The first mutant! And Hiro has to go back in time to … okay, I give up.

[QUOTE=DocCathode]
Eden’s earlier dialogue makes it sound like she thought the Haitian would follow orders despite his own misgivings, and not help her kill Sylar.
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Hm. Does the Haitian pretend to be a mute? I vaguely recall Eden saying something like, “He’d agree with me, if he could talk!” At first I thought him and Eden were rebelling together, but perhaps they were rebelling seperately.

[QUOTE=Wile E]
I missed the fire-breathing part. Hmm … perhaps it is a dinosaur but it’s a mutant dinosaur! The first mutant! And Hiro has to go back in time to … okay, I give up.
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It looked to me to be background color, not fire coming out of it’s mouth.

Anybody else see fire-breathing? Lighting suggesting of fire-breathing? Anybody have a link to the painting?

Wile E No need for sarcasm. I’m sticking to my explanation. It’s no stretch for a comic con to have a dinosaur or dragon statue and a vendor selling swords. Isaac self publishes a comic. Hiro is a comic fan (honorary member of the Merry Marvel Marching Society). A convention fits the established facts and explains the painting with the least conjecture.

So does the end of the world (or at least NYC) come with Peter Petrelli channeling radioactive man somehow, whilst getting all worked up about something fraternal?

[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]
I am stupid. Of course she would have to disable whatever it was that was keeping Sylar from using his own powers, if she wanted to use her own.
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To be clear, we don’t know what exactly was keeping Sylar from using his powers or for matter if anything was keeping him from using his powers. AED has underestimated powered people before, as when he thought Matt would be unable to read his thoughts.

Besides not knowing whether the Haitian would go against AED’s orders, the Haitian was also off on other errands at the time.

Is there something textual that indicates that Peter’s situation was caused by over-absorption of powers? Or are we gasp conjecturing again?

I read some interview on tvguide.com where one of the show’s writers said that’s what they meant to imply..

[QUOTE=DocCathode]
Anybody else see fire-breathing? Lighting suggesting of fire-breathing? Anybody have a link to the painting?
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The background behind the figures of Hiro and the Lizard Of Indeterminate Species (or “Lois,” and yes I am an ass) is an orangey color, contrasting with the darker background colors on either side of the orange. The orange background clearly extends behind Lois’s head and is not a stream of fire originating from her mouth.

[QUOTE=DocCathode]
Anybody else see fire-breathing? Lighting suggesting of fire-breathing? Anybody have a link to the painting?

Wile E No need for sarcasm. I’m sticking to my explanation. It’s no stretch for a comic con to have a dinosaur or dragon statue and a vendor selling swords. Isaac self publishes a comic. Hiro is a comic fan (honorary member of the Merry Marvel Marching Society). A convention fits the established facts and explains the painting with the least conjecture.
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I wasn’t being sarcastic. I thought I did miss something. I watch on a small TV and I’m nearsighted. I miss a lot sometimes. I was joking around about it because everyone always throws in some crazy theories and that was mine. No sarcasm intended.
Speaking of Peter absorbing powers, he was close to Sylar so didn’t he absorb some of his powers?

Sylar’s killed 6 people, we know he took the telekinetic’s powers and Charlie’s super memory. He probably has a power to freeze as well, as one of the victims we saw was frozen. So that leaves 3 other powers we don’t know about. Was there any other powers shown in the earlier episode where he was trying to get the little girl out of FBI headquarters?

[QUOTE=Otto]
To be clear, we don’t know what exactly was keeping Sylar from using his powers or for matter if anything was keeping him from using his powers. AED has underestimated powered people before, as when he thought Matt would be unable to read his thoughts.
Besides not knowing whether the Haitian would go against AED’s orders, the Haitian was also off on other errands at the time.
Is there something textual that indicates that Peter’s situation was caused by over-absorption of powers? Or are we gasp conjecturing again?
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It’s not a bad conjecture actually. I’m thinking that a possible plot direction is that Peter gets progressively more and more unstable as he absorbs additional powers, and that when he meets radioactive man that’s the final pop. Sylar’s then got to “fix” him or everyone dies.

[QUOTE=astro]
It’s not a bad conjecture actually. I’m thinking that a possible plot direction is that Peter gets progressively more and more unstable as he absorbs additional powers, and that when he meets radioactive man that’s the final pop. Sylar’s then got to “fix” him or everyone dies.
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Peter doesn’t keep the powers. They haven’t shown how long he does hold onto them.

Peter’s “visions” are not literal like Issac’s paintings. I don’t think that he will wind up being the exploding man. I think he was seeing a vision of Sylar. Sylar will brainsuck the radioactive man. The heroes have to stop him. If Sylar had Claire’s power then there would be no way to stop him. That’s why they saved the world. Purely conjecture of course.

Out of curiosity, in reading some articles about the show the plots are apparently being changed in an ongoing fashion to respond to the popularity of various characters. How far ahead of each airing are the shows being filmed?

[QUOTE=Otto]

Is there something textual that indicates that Peter’s situation was caused by over-absorption of powers? Or are we gasp conjecturing again?
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Actually, it’s a spoiler, which was WHY I used a fucking spoiler box. Thanks for putting it out in the open, sport. :rolleyes:

I don’t think the powers Peter absorbs build up inside him, but I do think he doesn’t have very good control over what he absorbs. All the heroes have to work on refining their control over their powers, so it makes sense for Peter to be clumsy in his own control of them. I don’t think he’ll be the ultimate cause of the explosion, but it seems like the show wants us to think of him as a possibility.

Oops, I suppose the above link contains spoilers (although IMO pretty mild), since it links to an interview with the creator of the show.

[QUOTE=RikWriter]
Actually, it’s a spoiler, which was WHY I used a fucking spoiler box. Thanks for putting it out in the open, sport. :rolleyes:
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If it’s a cite, then make it a cite. You wrote it like you just made it up. If you got the information from somewhere then say something like, “I read this on TVguide.com…[spoilerbox]” They way you put it there was no way to know if you were pulling out of your ass or if it was a spoiler. A little clue before hand as to if it is a real spoiler would be nice to those who don’t want to be spoiled.