Unanswered question: what happened to the real chef?
Of course, who’s to say just how time travel works?
Doctor Who also indicated that a (non-time lord) person cannot interact with themselves. Rose could not touch baby rose without strengthening the paradox monster thingies, and The Brigadier could not touch himself with out blowing up the current timeline.
I’m willing to call 'em on their failings, but they have been fairly consistent in their portrayal of time-travel. Despite what the complainers might claim. The various Hiros and Peters have mucked up the future – confirmed by Angela – but going into the past they haven’t been able to change anything. That was the point of the Charlie storyline.
However. It might turn out that Claire was carrying the catalyst at one point, but after she and Hiro went into the past, she never had been carrying the catalyst. Then I’ll have been giving the writers too much credit.
At this point, though, it is a simpler explanation that Claire’s baseless leap of logic that she was the catalyst-carrier was simply incorrect, and that Hiro’s mom had always given it to Present-Hiro all along.
Pretty much my point. Except that fact does not seem to dissuade people from arguing it, anyway.
Right - Claire’s assumption that she was the catalyst is based on her healing abilities and Sylars “you can never die” bits - which are no different than Adam’s… no catalyst required.
It reallys seems that they took a cue from Lucas - its just a bunch of micro-organisms in the bloodstream that make them special.
Two questions:
Why didn’t Syler do the head slicy thing what Arthur? Of all the powers you could possibly steal, wouldn’t Arthur’s be the best one?
Why did the Haitian not stop Syler? There was a gun right there, Syler could be safely dispatched.
The Haitian did not stop Sylar because he was exhausted and had been overcome by Arthur. Sylar, by plot contrivance, walked in just as the Haitian couldn’t stop him and before Arthur was able to get his mojo together to stop him too.
Sylar can already take other people’s powers and he doesn’t even have to do the head slicey thing, he just realized he likes doing it that way. If he took Arthur’s ability to take powers just by touching that would take all the fun out of it.
By the way, I just realized that Arthur took Peter’s ability to take powers passively so he no longer needed to touch people but I never noticed him using any powers of those he was around without touching. He should have had the flying, ice, fire, speed and electric powers.
He actually likes the good powers he’s got (Spiderman-like), but would like to lose the scales and spooge part of it.
So, which of the following do we think we are supposed to believe:
Arthur of 15 years ago walked out onto the rooftop to get the light from Kaito so they could put it into Claire, found Hiro and Claire who he didn’t know, but fortunately he over heard Hiro talking about the lightandso he took Hiro’s power and light, or
Arthur of today used the time travel power he took from Peter to go back 15 years so he could confront himself & Kaito and take the light, rather than just going back to any point in the past 16 years and taking it from Claire? Say, when she was seven and not likely to put up much of a fight, and long before she found out he’s her grandfather?
He may not realize he has those powers. The people he touched, he wanted to remove the powers from the original owner, and that’s Arthur’s power, which requires a touch.
And the Haitian did say, “Arthur was the one who needed to die”, when Peter kind of asked why he didn’t shut down Sylar. Plus, if he can’t hold Arthur back, how is he supposedd to hold back Arthur & Sylar?
The first power from Peter that Arthur demonstrated was Elle’s electrical power. However, we know that Peter’s power is “empathy” (per Claude), and that Sylar needed empathy to take powers without popping open heads.
Arthur? does not strike me as being very empathetic. Entirely possible that he’s not copying powers passively with Peter’s power just because he can’t. It may be an emo-only power. And Arthur would look stupid with that flippy hair thing.
That was not Arthur of 15 years ago on the rooftop. We saw them use makeup to de-age Claire’s parents (and maybe Kaito). Arthur: no makeup. Also, rooftop Arthur knew about Angela’s attempts to stop him, knew where to send Claire back to Angela, and teleported himself back to Pinehurst in the present. That was present-Arthur going timediving using Hiro’s-power-stolen-from-Peter.
I have to admit Robert Forster was the only reason I’d resumed watching this mess. If he’s really gone for good, I probably will be also.
And man Peter’s such a pussy.
To paraphrase a quote from Doctor Who, it’s all one huge timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly…thingy.
This is why I hate time travel.
Yeah, exactly. I don’t know where people are coming up with this. Most fiction I’ve read or watched involving time travel had no problems at all with the concept of going back in time and changing your own diapers.
But what would happen if chopped off your own arm…using the arm you are chopping off?
Huh? Huh?
Heroes seems to be based upon the premise that there is only one timeline, and that it changes based upon actions in time travel. So Hiro goes back, gets the Light instead of Claire, and what changes about the future? Nothing really. Claire doesn’t have something inside of her that we’ve not seen any evidence she ever really had. It’s not like she no longer exists, or that she was tossing a Light power around, or that she killed Arthur in the past. Nothing changes other than that one thing that hasn’t had any impact on anything yet. Arthur’s still looking for it, so still goes back to the time he thinks it was transferred from the host to someone else, finds out where it is, and takes it. No paradox, no mixed up timeline, no problem at all.
A TV show about people gaining super powers to fly around, shoot blasts of energy and change time needs a hard science fiction writer on staff like a fish needs a bicycle. The entire premise of the show is impossible under hard science fiction.
You are truly a modern day visionary, Gangster Octopus and we would all do well to bask in your wisdom.
Oh and congratulations on Fox greenlighting Pussy & Styx!
Well, there was the bit from the first season when Hiro said he was risking causing a rift or something by going back and talking to Peter.
And, aren’t we all glad to see how well Hiro’s able to control his powers now that he has the sword?
Not quite, I think.
We’ve seen that Hiro has no luck in changing the past – either what is supposed to happen, will happen… or he ends up being a part of what was going to happen all along.
The future timeline changes based on the actions of time-traveling characters in the present. So it kinda sucks for Irish Lassie.
… maybe she’ll find a home on the Island of Mislaid Secondary Characters, along with Not Gay BFF and FBI Chicks and Hiro’s missing sword.
Isn’t that just saying the same thing, though? For past Hiro, the time-traveling future Hiro is changing the future timeline by acting in what would be the present (in the past).
Future Hiro is able to come to the present, and change the future (= his present). In this case, traveling back in time can change what occurs after after that point.
Present Hiro is unable to go into the past, and change the present (= the past’s future). In this case, traveling back in time cannot change what occurs after that point.
It’s a weird little distinction they’ve got going, but so far it’s been consistent.