No, Adam, I am not afraid of ‘someone like you’ giving advice, I am afraid of you, specifically giving advice. Here’s a hypothetical:
Client: I have some questions about my faith. For instance, what happens to the Bushmen? Do they go to heaven?
Adam: I don’t know about the Bushmen.
:::::end of discussion:::::
**or**
Client: I listen to the Jesus show on the radio, and I think he talks to me.
Adam: Hooray! You’re saved!
Yes, OK, so I’m picking on you a bit. I’m sure you would get some training to help you distinguish between delusions and…hmmm, not sure what to call it as I rather think relgion is delusional…Let’s say safe delusions from harmful ones. But my main point, Adam, is that you do not address questions which are directly put to you. If something is asked that you, for whatever reason, don’t want to or can’t answer, you just brush it under the rug and divert the conversation. These are not the characteristics of a good councelor, Christian or otherwise.
“I think it would be a great idea” Mohandas Ghandi’s answer when asked what he thought of Western civilization
You might try establishing a relationship between your brain and your mouth, as it’s quite obvious the two have never been introduced. Where you got the idea being a Christian has nothing to do with religion, I’ll never know. Sounds to me like someone’s feeding you your lines but never bothered to explain what Christianity is all about except for the proselytizing aspects.
Ignorance of spiritual and religious matters oozes from your very pores.
(Sorry, kids, I kept my mouth shut all this time, but I could not let that one go).
Really arg? Wow i must be destined for hell (i read my bible rarely, i do pray but not like you would consider it, and i rarely go to church). And you know what? Being a Christian has EVERYTHING to do with religion.
Religion is for COMMUNITY, the same thing with joining a church. People join religions and churches to be with like minded people. And you know what arg? Your proselytizing only pushes people away from the goal you wish. Live by example, not by spouting your mouth off.
Arg, what department of heaven gave you the message that perpetual annoyance was the way to save your fellow citizens of earth?
Incidentally, if all you say is true, then hell will be occupied by Wiccans, Jews, members of all other religions, gays, the sexually active, the pro-choice, everybody who’s open-minded etc., etc.
Heaven, on the other hand, will be occupied chiefly by holier-than-thou evangelist Christians.
The only reason you’re annoyed, is because you chose to be. And besides, I think I’m doing a good thing here. I’m adding a new dimension, and bringing light to an otherwise lifeless, and dark environment. (Yea, I’m saying the SD is dark)
Don’t forget that us Christians are the salt of the earth. What’s wrong with a little extra seasoning in this message board.
OK, show of hands. How many people see ARG’s messages as something “new?” OK, now how many people have heard it all before? All right, thanks. You may put your hands down now.
OK, serious question for ARG: (I’m genuinely curious about this) Has anyone on this message board contacted you to acknowledge your version of the “truth?” I mean in the context of, “Yes you’re right. Please tell me more.” A simple yes or no will suffice, but please be honest if you choose to answer me.
Well Strainger, the answer is no. Aside from some encouraging words from Pickman’s Model, I have not been told that I am right. And Pickman didn’t say I was right. He just gave me tips on how to answer some of the questions put before me.
It’s been frustrating to say the least. Here I am among 1,800+ people. And nobody believes in God the way I (and so many millions around the world) do. Or if they believe, they haven’t said anything to me to verify that fact.
And I didn’t mean that I was NEW. I said I added a new dimension. Just as Loverock has added his own twist, even though other goons have come before him.
BTW Strainger: If one person…just ONE e-mails me, or says that they believe as I do, then it will ALL be worth it. And even if nobody believes the way I do, then I have still spread God’s Word across this board, and you have all heard it. Now it’s up to you to act upon it.
ARG, Yes! I am announcing right now that I totally agree with you.I’m coming out of the closet! I haven’t added anything on this thread because you have said it all. And I must commend you, you’ve been quite patient with certain unbelievers. They say they are openminded, but as we can see, they just want to flame you. pldennison has called me idiotic, ignorant, etc. simply for saying prayer should be in the schools. How open minded. The unbelievers say they’re way is the ONLY way and anyone else is stupid. Intolerance, thats what it is. Thank you. I await the flames now.
No, I called you ignorant because you are apparently unaware that a) it is not illegal to pray in school and b) it is illegal to force someone else to.
Yes, that’s right, I’m closed-minded for believing we should actually stick to our own laws and Constitution rather than bowing to theocrats. Say, is your planet a square one where everyone does everything the reverse of how its done on Earth?
Uh, yeah. As opposed to what Adam has said, which is that his way is the only way and anyone else is stupid. Do you read this stuff while you write it, or just pick words out of a hat?
Adam and his kind are among the most intolerant people on the face of the planet. Ask both of us how we feel about homosexuals, religious freedom, and gender roles, and you’ll quickly find that out.
Show me ONE “unbeliever”(sic) that claims that his/hers way is the only one.
I have known believers who say that THEIR way is the only one. Actually, THEY ALL claim that their way is the right way. Who is intolerant?
Give me ONE war in the name of atheism if you can, I’ll give you THOUSANDS in the name of religion, and GOD. THEN I become intolerant! When I see how much destruction, and hatred, and death have been the result of religious conflict!
And not only physical destruction, but emotional and spiritual as well. Especially when it’s taken to extremes, like ARG does.
ARG, I wish you well, really. But you’re not accomplishing anything here. If you believe vanillanice is on your side, and that, in your own words, If one person…just ONE e-mails me, or says that they believe as I do, then it will ALL be worth it, you may now go in peace. Your work is done. Let us continue our journey to hell, without you.
You can try now another BB, and start all over again.
Good luck!
Men will cease to commit atrocities only when they cease to believe absurdities.
-Voltaire
try being catholic, we get to drink, screw, fight, whateve, all we gotta do is ‘confess’, ask for forgiveness, and all is well.
of course the downside is perpetual guilt…the molesting priests…the pious sermonizing…etc.
actually, I almost envy you arg et al, I wish I could give something credit for all good, and blame for all bad, to feel like I was just a servant of something more supreme…it must make it alot easier to sleep at night.
But what if you do everything right, you are sooo good, and then something horrible happens to you , do you blame’god’, or yourself, thinking I MUST have offended’him’.
Life gets a bit more complicated as you get older…but there is no harm in thying to be good, at least you arent out shooting up schools…(not meant as a joke…I really am glad there is one good kid out there)
Incidentally, I understand that some ecclesiastics declared recently that hell is not a sulphurous fiery pit but merely the state of being denied the presence of God. I presume we mean the Christian god here, in which case great, where do I sign up?
ARG220, how many F*CKING times are we going to see, “Gee, you’re right, I should be more tolerant.”
“You’re all going to hell!”
“Gee, you’re right, I should be more tolerant.”
“You’re all going to hell!”
Look, folks - Arg220 had his say, got tired of arguing with everyone, and moved on to other things. He’s been given a forum to preach in if he feels the need, and the rest of us can either ignore it or debate with him if we so choose.
So why are people suddenly reviving this old thread and jumping on Arg again? Give him a break! He’s been contributing quietly and respectfully to other threads. Let bygones be bygones and move on to more productive stuff.