Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more

[drad_dog]

@John_Mace

Eh. You say that because it makes you feel good. You might, however, ask yourself if it actually helps or hurts your cause. You might ask yourself whether those folks in MI, WI and whatnot are going to be influenced positively or negatively by folks like MS pontificating on awards shows. Because that’s the problem with too many Progressives-- they value feeling good over wining elections. You see it on this MB all the time.

Because what you say must always speak to WI and whatnot in case you might fail to influence them? Because that’s the real meaning of life I suppose.

Value feeling good over… WHAT? Did you just say that?.. to folks who tried to stop donnie from being elected??? Really?

[Alessan]

I’d say that Trump talking shit about Meryl Streep - one of the most beloved actors in the country, and not just by progressives - can’t hurt the Democrats at all.

[Aquadementia]

I’m not a big Streep fan but I’d take her as president over trump.
She always prepares for her roles and always nails them.

I’ll even make a bet with you. Let Trump be president for a month and see how well he does. Then let Streep be president for a month and see how well she does. The better one gets to go on being president.

[Donald_Rump]

@iiandyiiii

It’s possible he had a different intention, which is the case the OP (and his linked video) try to make, but I think they fail since the gestures he uses in other instances are different.

On my reading of the video, the Cruz-mocking gesture and the Kovaleski-mocking gesture are the same.

The problem for Trump defenders, however, is that the gesture seems intended to impersonate a–for lack of better word–“spaz.” Imitating someone with a musculo-skeletal disability in this way is still mocking a disabled person, even if the gesture has been applied to non-disabled people as well.

[Euphonious_Polemic]

Trump should really start attacking Mark Hamil, for his spot- on rendition ofThe Joker reading Trump’s tweets.

I hope that Trump starts tweeting away about all of his enemies. It will keep him occupied.

[TriPolar]

@drad_dog

Well actors are artists working in a very public sphere. Artists are supposed to challenge things.

Who would want to watch any show where the artists honored were not free to speak about the world given their minute or two?

Suck it up and stop pimping your world view as if you are delivering any kind of common sense. You aren’t.

You’re own post is so lacking in sense it falls below the ‘common’ bar. Politicians work in a more public sphere than actors who barely qualify as artists, certainly not the kind of artists who actually create their own works. My world view is my own, and requires no pimping since I give it away for free. I doubt the best pimp could even pay people to accept yours.

All any of you whiners have to do is state that you’d like to hear celebrities tout the political views you find most offensive at awards ceremonies and that you like to hear politicians telling you what kind of entertainment to enjoy. I’ve stated my case quite simply and clearly, I don’t care what an actor’s politics are, I don’t want to hear about them when they are awarded for their acting skills. They can take to the airwaves and run for office or interact in the political environment if that is their calling. And politicians can go try to sell tickets for their shows if they believe they are entertaining enough. Sadly that last part is what they do, and are in general far more successful at it than actors, affecting the world in ways that don’t just touch people’s hearts but put bullets through them. But you’re okay with that, right?

[Starving_Artist]

@WOOKINPANUB

Just for argument’s sake, let’s all pretend to agree that actor’s shouldn’t use award shows to air their political views. Did MS say anything untrue or immoral?

Yes. She suggested that Trump and his supporters are seeking to kick all the country’s outsiders and foreigners out of the country. To wit:

So Hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners and if we kick them all out, you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts.

Note that she also seems to feel the most important drawback to all this kicking out is that the arts will suffer. She also called Ruth Negga beautiful, which is supposedly sexist and reprehensible these days.

So yeah, untrue as to the first; immoral as to the last two.

[iiandyiiii]

@Starving_Artist

Yes. She suggested that Trump and his supporters are seeking to kick all the country’s outsiders and foreigners out of the country. To wit:

You’re reading into that. She didn’t single them out, and I took that as a criticism of anyone with these views, which includes some of Trump’s supporters.

Note that she also seems to feel the most important drawback to all this kicking out is that the arts will suffer. She also called Ruth Negga beautiful, which is supposedly sexist and reprehensible these days.

So yeah, untrue as to the first; immoral as to the last two.

How is calling someone beautiful “sexist and reprehensible”? Where do you get this crap?

[drad_dog]

Try Polar: Try being an actor sometime. Actors are artists. Artists are creative. People want them to be that way.

Go reformulate and try again. Brevity is key.

[bobot]

Pretty funny that those laughing at our soon to be POTUS’ ridiculous tweets are being called “whiners”. Ouch, stop, it hurts!

[TriPolar]

@drad_dog

Try Polar: Try being an actor sometime. Actors are artists. Artists are creative. People want them to be that way.

Go reformulate and try again. Brevity is key.

Apparently brevity wasn’t the key for Ms. Streep.

But now I realize she was just acting last night, those weren’t her words and opinions, just the ones someone wrote down for her to deliver in her own creative style. Sorry, dragged dog, I have more creativity in my little finger than Streep displayed last night, and most likely than you have displayed in your entire life.

[JohnT]

Hey, Ms Streep, you’re an American Citizen, nothing more, meaning you have as much right to say what you want, when you want, as much as any internet asshat.

[Happy_Lendervedder]

@John_Mace

Eh. You say that because it makes you feel good. You might, however, ask yourself if it actually helps or hurts your cause. You might ask yourself whether those folks in MI, WI and whatnot are going to be influenced positively or negatively by folks like MS pontificating on awards shows. Because that’s the problem with too many Progressives-- they value feeling good over wining elections. You see it on this MB all the time.

Eh. No I don’t. Folks like MS have been pontificating on awards shows, and on talk shows, and in songs, and in books and at other public events as long as there have been people like MS. I don’t think “those folks in MI, WI and whatnot” will be influenced at all by people like MS pontificating at award shows. They know where she stood before, they know where she stands now. She’s not speaking to them. Ideally, she’s speaking to potential progressive candidates and activists and leaders and donors, and she speaking to other people who are absolutely gobsmacked that we have this clownish manchild about to be sworn in as our next president. And she’s speaking to average people (of all political persuasions) who admire her as an actress and who might take her words as food for thought.

Plus, people like MS talking gets other people talking and debating and defending which helps create a narrative. Especially in this era of social media and “likes” and “shares” and “trends.” Narratives make a difference. Ask Hillary Clinton. Ask the politicians behind Obamacare. It also keeps the abnormality of Donald Trump out in the open.

All any of you whiners have to do is state that you’d like to hear celebrities tout the political views you find most offensive at awards ceremonies and that you like to hear politicians telling you what kind of entertainment to enjoy. I’ve stated my case quite simply and clearly, I don’t care what an actor’s politics are, I don’t want to hear about them when they are awarded for their acting skills. They can take to the airwaves and run for office or interact in the political environment if that is their calling. And politicians can go try to sell tickets for their shows if they believe they are entertaining enough.

Wow, that sounds an awful lot like whining. In fact the OP is just a whiner whining in defense of a whiner who whines constantly about stupid shit. So I suppose you whining about celebrity activists here is absolutely appropriate. Whine on, whiner!

[Intergalactic_Gladiator]

@Snowboarder_Bo

What, in your opinion, is the difference between “play-acting” and “acting”? Clearly you feel that there is a difference, as you continually use the term “play-acting” instead of “acting” to describe what Miss Streep does for a living; what’s the difference between the two?

Duh. Real “acting” is what Trump did in that Home Alone movie and when he took that Stone Cold Stunner at WrestleMania. Definitely better than anything Streep did in Sophie’s Choice or Kramer Vs. Kramer.

[drad_dog]

@TriPolar

Apparently brevity wasn’t the key for Ms. Streep.

But now I realize she was just acting last night, those weren’t her words and opinions, just the ones someone wrote down for her to deliver in her own creative style. Sorry, dragged dog, I have more creativity in my little finger than Streep displayed last night, and most likely than you have displayed in your entire life.

You can wish. Some writers are artists, some artists are writers. It’s a venn diagram. But I really hope your not referring to your writing.

Agitating against that kind of speech is for totalitarians, authoritarians and fascists, not americans or creative people. Republicans and conservatives are right now making that decision about which they want to be. That’s what you need to focus on.

[WOOKINPANUB]

@Starving_Artist

Yes. She suggested that Trump and his supporters are seeking to kick all the country’s outsiders and foreigners out of the country. To wit:

Note that she also seems to feel the most important drawback to all this kicking out is that the arts will suffer. She also called Ruth Negga beautiful, which is supposedly sexist and reprehensible these days.

So yeah, untrue as to the first; immoral as to the last two.

Well she didn’t exactly pull it out of her ass, ya know. There’s a reason why there are so many jokes about Trump getting rid of foreigners . . . because he suggested as much. Note, I’m not saying he *literally *said “we’re going to round them up and ship 'em out”. Surely you’re not going to deny he’s taken that stance?

Still not getting the immoral part. The part about the arts suffering was partly a joke and partly emphasizing that many of her peers are “foreigners”. I have no idea what you mean about her comment about Ruth Negga (?)

[TriPolar]

@Happy_Lendervedder

Wow, that sounds an awful lot like whining. In fact the OP is just a whiner whining in defense of a whiner who whines constantly about stupid shit. So I suppose you whining about celebrity activists here is absolutely appropriate. Whine on, whiner!

I’ll own it. I am whining about the whiners. But isn’t this the appropriate forum for that?

[wolfpup]

I see that the New Yorker just posted a few insightful comments …
And then Meryl happened. I try not to write constantly about Streep’s perfect speeches, but she keeps pulling me back in … Usually, Streep uses her frequent position of being honored to cut herself down to size with sly, self-deprecating humor. But last night she spoke not of herself, her career, or even acting … With the hall utterly silent, she cautioned, “Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. And, when the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.” She urged her listeners to support the Committee to Protect Journalists, and signed off with a line from her late friend Carrie Fisher: “Take your broken heart, make it into art.” It was simply stunning: eloquent and urgent, the words of someone who has had to grapple, like many of us, with a sudden abandonment of national decency but who knows that art has a place in restoring it.

… By morning, President-elect Trump was tweeting about how Streep is “one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood.” Ladies and gentlemen, your two Americas.

I couldn’t agree more.

And satirist Andy Borowitz weighed in …
In an emergency meeting at Trump Tower on Monday morning, President-elect Donald J. Trump urged the heads of the nation’s intelligence agencies to “stop picking on Russia” and instead focus on “the very real threat” posed by Hollywood actresses.

Calling the recent allegations against Russia a “witch hunt,” Trump told the intelligence chiefs that their investigations of Russian President Vladimir Putin were distracting them from “America’s real enemy, actresses.”

[Happy_Lendervedder]

@TriPolar

I’ll own it. I am whining about the whiners. But isn’t this the appropriate forum for that?

To be clear: You’re whining about celebrities speaking their mind. When you say “All you whiners…” I’m not sure who you’re addressing, as the only whiners I see here are those complaining about actors going political in their acceptance speeches at awards shows. And yes, I did indeed acknowledge this is the place for you to whine about it.

[doorhinge]

@wolfpup

And satirist Andy Borowitz weighed in …
In an emergency meeting at Trump Tower on Monday morning, President-elect Donald J. Trump urged the heads of the nation’s intelligence agencies to “stop picking on Russia” and instead focus on “the very real threat” posed by Hollywood actresses.

Calling the recent allegations against Russia a “witch hunt,” Trump told the intelligence chiefs that their investigations of Russian President Vladimir Putin were distracting them from “America’s real enemy, actresses.”

It sounds like satirist Andy Borowitz is creating a fake news story. I wonder how many members of the Democrat collective will believe this story, or pass it on as fact?