Hillary goes down: what happens next?

No, that’s not a “real danger”, that’s an “imagined danger”. And one that could apply to anyone.

The “real danger” for Clinton will come in the general election. Republicans do better when the turn-out is low, so she needs to make sure her tepid support among mainstream Democrats does not translate into a loss by default. I think that possibility is low, but not negligible.

Why do you keep pushing the lie that I think Benghazi is going destroy Clinton?

WHERE DID I EVER MENTION BENGHAZI BEFORE?

I’LL WRITE OUT A CHECK FOR $1000 FOR YOU IF YOU GO BACK AND SHOW ME WHERE I EVER MENTION BENGHAZI?

BTW THERE IS LITTLE FACT IN A THREAD LIKE THIS, WE ARE TALKING PROJECTION, ASSUMPTION.

YOU WANT TO RIDE SOMEBODY? PLEASE GO RIDE SOMEBODY ELSE.

MODERATOR! PLEASE GET THIS BUG OFF MY BACK.

Elvis, Riv1 has a point. At no point has he brought up Benghazi in this thread. Please don’t impart beliefs to other posters that they have not made clear. Doing so makes you look like you’re looking to knock over straw men instead of really discussing the issues.

On the other hand…

Riv1, it is specifically prohibited in both the Great Debates and Elections fora to accuse another poster of lying in any way. Your post prior to this one could have earned you a warning. Sufficient warnings could lead to sanctions up to and including the ending of your posting privileges here. No one wants that to happen.

I’d advise you to read the rules for each forum in which you plan to post so these things don’t happen again.

He has made the claim that something is coming up, planned for early next year in fact. He won’t say what it is, so I’m asking him what he’s referring to, and he’s not denying it. I am not, as you say, “imparting beliefs” or creating strawmen. Thank you.

So, tell us, Riv1, what *are *you referring to, if not Benghazi?

that Jewish guy from Minnesota

Hillary whacked Paul Wellstone?

OBVIOUSLY I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS COMING UP AND NOWHERE DID I SAY ANYTHING WAS PLANNED TO COME UP.

I’m assuming something will come up because something always has come up.

THAT has been the gist of my argument.

I’m not accusing him or her of lying, I’m accusing him or her of riding the new guy.

I DEMAND THIS TO STOP!

Either that or he she is very poor at reading comprehension.

Something may be planned to come up anti Hillary around the NH primary but I’m not an insider and I can’t say what nor would I say what IF I knew.

In the post that attracted Moderator attention, you included the accusation “pushing the lie.”

This is a debate forum. You are quite welcome to dismiss or ignore another poster. Demanding that the staff prevent another poster from challenging one’s comments will not result in any action by the Mods.
We do have rules against personal feuds and against stalking/harassment, but neither of those rules have (yet) been violated in this thread.

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What “came up” in the '08 primaries? Hillary got out-campaigned by Obama, but almost won. If anything, it was Obama who had things “come up” (like Rev Wright).

If you don’t have any idea of what’s going to come up, how can you know that there will be anything?

Because something always comes up. Except when it doesn’t. Duh!!

And that’s the exception which proves the rule!

Yeah, just about anyone can potentially have something come up, just as they may not. That’s just not something you can build your political strategies upon.

And the enthusiasm gap will be a problem especially if she just coasts to the nomination effortlessly.

It’s one thing simply hypothesizing about “if Hillary does not make it to the nomination, then what is Plan B”?(*) or about “what of the known issues surrounding her right now has the biggest potential to hinder her campaign”? It’s another to try and guess the probabilities of something other than just the turn of the political cards. Assuming “something will come up because something always comes up” sort of leaves us where we were and is unhelpful for moving the discussion forward.

(* For all we know she could get knocked out of the race by a force majeure that is entirely outside of her responsibility, and guess what: that could equally happen to Jeb, Rubio, Ted, Huckabee, O’Malley, Sanders, etc.; they are all but human)

suck my ass

This is going to go well … :slight_smile:

Banned name!

Actually, let’s make this really simple: A new revelation that comes out and knocks someone out of the race can’t be something that “always happens”, because every four years, we always have at least two people who aren’t knocked out of the race. Given that it’s possible, and in fact nearly guaranteed, to have someone who isn’t knocked out of the race, what’s to say that Hillary won’t be that person?

Actually, contra, Hillary is a bit less likely to be bounced due to some unrevealed dark episode in her past, because she has been more thoroughly investigated than anybody else up on our tracking screens. Investigative reporters have been crawling up her butt for what? twenty, twenty five years now?

As far as an enthusiasm gap goes, I expect a lot of us to the left of Calvin Coolidge will vote for her, and make a point of voting for her because the other team scares us enough to make laxatives superfluous… Beseat yourself, think “President Huckabee”, bang! wipe your Nixon and go!