But hopefully, Mark Cuban will be front and center as Hillary’s guest. Mark had promised this, and trump apparently didn’t like the idea at all.
The way I see this is Trump’s high is lower than Clinton’s low. This is great news for the Clinton campaign.
There will be no decisive victory for either candidate. That is not how these things work despite your insistence that it is.
And were he in control of his faculties, he would be wise to completely ignore Cuban’s presence. But I’ve got my money on him making some sort of whiny allusion about it at some point during the debate (if Cuban is actually there).
Most of the time, yes, but not 100 percent of the time, and Trump is now within striking distance.
You’re entitled to think what you want, but you’re wrong. As I’ve pointed out, Romney defeated Obama in the first debate and Obama’s poll numbers went down by as much as 6 points in a CNN poll that followed in the week after the poll. Did Obama regain his footing? Yes, he did, but he entered the debate in a fundamentally stronger position than Hillary Clinton is entering this one.
Of course the only way I can really prove it to you and others is if Hillary Clinton, in fact, is perceived as losing the debate tomorrow, which I absolutely, positively do not want to happen. So if SDMB posters remain skeptical and unconvinced, I’ll see that as a positive sign. There are some debates I’d rather not win.
If Donald starts spouting off in one of his torrents of bullshit in which basically talks past moderators and cutting Hillary off, I could totally see Mark Cuban heckling Don from the seats. Heckling from the seats is one of Mark’s many talents.
Well… like they say…
At which point Hillary should say “Sit down and shut up, Mr Cuban, I got this.”
I can see her litigation experience as being quite useful in the debates. She’s had experience in crafting a narrative to present to people for them to review and judge. Trump may have experience in a more casual way, but he’s got a team of lawyers that do the “dirty work.” If the debate gets personal, advantage Trump. But Hillary wipes the floor with him if it stays about the issues.
Plus, there may be a slight dip for Trump if he appears to be beating on a woman. His approach there could backfire.
Trump has made serious errors almost daily, and it hasn’t seemed to hurt him. His followers are immune to facts and logic.
Don’t forget that there will be 2 days of “What Trump meant by xxx is this…” His supporters will eat it up, those with < 10 brain cells will eat it up, and everyone else will keep wringing their hands praying for signs from heaven, or maybe a meteor shower.
Please try to avoid even sidewise calling another poster a fascist and suchlike.
Trump has indeed made serious errors, and some of those errors have hurt him badly, even if they haven’t hurt him permanently. Trump’s worst tendency is to find himself into a controversy in which someone has managed to get under his skin, at which point he (sorry to use this hackneyed phrase) throws water on the grease fire. He was able to survive throwing water on the grease fire in June and again in August – because his opponent Hillary Clinton gave him an opening, but more importantly because he had time to recover. He doesn’t have that anymore. Voters’ first impressions of Trump didn’t matter, and neither did their second, fourth, or 100 hundredth impression of him. But their final impression does matter – a lot.
If Clinton can manage to walk out of this with people talking about how she did a reasonably good job of not taking Donald Trump’s bait and not getting flustered by his attacks, then I think she will have, in some sense, ‘won’ the debate. Maybe then she pushes her lead up a few points, and if that happens, I think it’s getting to the point where maybe the cake is finally baked. I hope so. I still think she needs to somehow show some heart and soul, but I’m not sure how she does that when she’s standing alongside an orange gorilla that can talk. I’ll settle for her just standing calm with a smirk and smile in the face of Donald’s bombast.
Unfortunately, no decisive victory by either will be spun by the media as a win for Trump. Count on it.
I beg to differ - that’s why Steve Bannon and Kelly Ann Conway were brought in. They’re going to spin the hell out of it in social media and in the right wing press. It’ll get tweets, shares, likes.
So, Trump is planning on dumping the issues supposedly up for discussion tonight in favor of the “scandals”?
He’ll try to.
By the way, anyone else pretty sure that Clinton will quote Reagan, especially with a “There you go again.” when she points out his being loose with the facts at some point?
That would be silly. Come up with new stuff.
No one really knows what Trump plans to do, but if he does decide to attack her on her ethics I don’t really see how she’ll be able to parry that unless her staff has finally been allowed to talk to her about this stuff(Game Change strongly suggested that it’s a taboo subject).
She ignores it-it sticks
She gives unprepared answers-looks as dumb as she usually does when she says things like 'What, with a cloth?"
She says, “Well, you’re ethically challenged too!”- Doesn’t help, since she’s supposed to be superior to Trump. If the public sees Trump as “just as bad” as Clinton, and vice versa, Trump will win.
But if she has well prepared responses that don’t sound defensive, that can neutralize the attacks and make it seem like Trump is flailing.
Trump voters that can be swayed by facts, yes. Might even sway both of them!
Unfortunately, recent Bloomberg polls show there are a lot more of them than you might think. The polls are a virtual tie.