The sad thing is that they will support a guy that is a con man. IOW, a guy that will even stiff his supporters.
What makes you think this is either Trump’s high or Clinton’s low?
**'luci **was not referring to the number of Trump supporters. Of which, alas, there are many.
He was referring to those who “can be swayed by facts.” Facts are mostly irrelevant to Trump’s fans.
Nice try, but he totally nailed me. When will I ever learn?
“Mr. Trump, what do you think of the current situation in Syria, specifically Russia’s involvement in Aleppo? What would your administration do to reduce this conflict?”
Trump: “We know that lying Hilary is at fault here. She is going to let more terrorists into the country. She said so herself! The Syrenians are going to just have to look after themselves because we can’t afford it. We are gonna build a wall! And it’s gonna be HUGE!”
Analysts “Well, I think Trump really scored points on that one. Masterful. Back to you Bob”
Re: the OP.
So we now have enough distance from the “bad weekend” to assess what it did to Hillary’s polling. At least based on the national polls, it appears to have helped (or at least not hurt).
If you look at the RCP averages as they start incorporating the polls that were put in the field on or after 9/12 (i.e., starting around 9/16-9/18), the averages went up until today when they ticked down slightly but still higher than they were right before the bad weekend.
The 538 numbers show the same thing, though you have to cut them up a bit to make an apples-to-apples comparison, because the 538 trendline includes an extremely long rolling weighted average whereas RCP takes just ten days. In their data, if you look at Hillary’s average lead for polls just from the polls in the field post-9/11, it’s actually higher than it is if you incorporate the pre-9/11 polls.
I think the argument to the contrary has been misinterpreting the 538 data as if it were a relatively quick-updating rolling average. But what’s actually happened is that even though the post-9/11 polls have been slightly better for Clinton, the new data has been supplanting very good polls from the convention bounce. So while the post 9/11 period was actually slightly better for her, the simple advancement of time started to wash out the late July and early August polls. But in terms of interpreting which events, if any, pushed the trendline, it doesn’t look like 9/11 was a negative.
This would be funny if it wasn’t so true. The analysts will be praising Trump as a genius if he manages to recite the ABCs in the correct order with only a few mistakes.
He’ll be just fine as long as they let him sing it.
I’m not so sure about that. In the upscale type of kindergarten Trump will have attended, I think they have the kids’ chauffeurs and valets do the alphabet song for them.
Trump’s dedicated voters seem to live in a fact-free zone. But not all of Trump’s current support is dedicated voters. There are some weak supporters that can be peeled off of both candidates. And there are still 15% or so of undecided or third party voters who are waiting to be wooed.
If Clinton looks crooked on that stage, they’ll stick to their third parties.
How is she going to “look crooked”?
From Trump repeating “Crooked Hilary” three times?
And then the Rubber-Glue Fairy will appear, to announce that Trump has projected his own traits onto another the mystically-foretold number of times. Then the word “Crook” will, with a flash, materialize on Trump’s forehead in blazing letters of bright orange.
And Trump’s spray-tan technician will fall to the ground in a faint, at the thought of having to match that shade of orange (so as to conceal the Magical Label). And Trump, seeing his spray-tan technician on the ground, will commence a snit so intense and bitter that his very being will begin to smoke and dissolve.
And nothing will be left but a pool of rancid fat and a sheaf of dyed-blond hairs.
And the people will rejoice.
And around 40% of the voting public will vote for it.
Yeah, the last page of the storybook was missing, but that’s what was on it. ![]()