Monty wrote:
Neither did the Pharisees.
“They tie up heavy loads and put them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.” — Jesus (Matthew 23:4)
You know, one thing that really does concern me about the latest incarnation of this brouhaha is I’m not sure whether His4Ever realizes she and I were talking about two completely different incidents in Christ’s life.
His4Ever, I really could use a little reassurance here. Do you understand that when I refer to “the Samaritan woman at the well” I’m not referring to “the woman caught in adultery”? I’m not asking you this because I think you’re stupid. It’s just that we’ve gotten our wires crossed on these two events at least once before.
CJ
cj: You are aware that H4E doesn’t know jack squat about the Scriptures, aren’t you?
Monty, I’m quite literally praying that isn’t true.
CJ
I see that I’m getting 2 incidents mixed up.
You nagged cj with this comment:
That’s just more proof that it’s not you getting incidents mixed up but rather proof that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Not that anyone really needs further proof of that, though.
CJ: Instead of praying for the Lord to change the facts of something, I’m praying that H4E will get off her lazy tush and actually learn something. Sadly, her hatred of others still gets in the way of that.
Opal sed:
Aw, c’mon. You honestly mean to tell me that Jack Chick and Fred Phelps don’t win souls?
. . . what?
Then please respond constructively to any of my three posts on page 6 or Polycarp’s on this page (7?). I’m afraid I found your original response to be off-topic and unresponsive at best. For someone who regularly cites biblical authority to justify a rather judgemental stance, you’ve just displayed a rather large bit of ignorance.
Come on, Episcopalians are not supposed to be able to best Fundamentalists in biblical knowledge, just as Fundamentalists aren’t supposed to be able to best Episcopalians in knowing which fork to use at dinner. It’s just plain wrong! :shudder!: 
CJ
Hatred of others? I see you still don’t get it, Monty. Whatever…you’ve all got your opinions.
What exactly is it that I don’t get, Hypocrite4Ever? You have yet to evidence any of the compassion that is taught in the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Qur’an. What I do see is your constant condemnation of others and then your ducking the issue when that condemnation comes back to bite you. I get that you can’t be bothered to read the scriptures for yourself and come to a conclusion based on that but instead go to your king, Jack Chick, and others like him and regurgitate their lies.
And unlike your opinions, I come to mine after research.
His4Ever, if you tell a person that he is going to Hell because he does not belong to what you consider the one true church, especially when he believes that he does belong to the true church, it’s easy for him to construe that as hatred. I’m thinking of your attitude toward Catholics and Mormons in particular.
CJ
cj: Don’t forget that her “proof” for what she says is quoting absolutely false statements.
This is very weird - I’m now showing up as the OP of this thread. I’m guessing it’s gone beyond the length that vBulletin can cope with and the original first page has been lost…perhaps we should ask the admins to lock it off and open a new one.
Reprise, I think it’s always been that way. When this thread was started, the Board was having problems like that.
His4Ever, when you said,
, like it or not, you told a direct lie about your Deity. Furthermore, it’s one which promotes your own agenda of a judgemental God who you portray as being quite cruel. I don’t know whether you did this out of malice or ignorance. I do know we had some confusion over this once before. At the time you didn’t address it and I let it go. I’m not now.
Do you admit you were wrong in writing what you did and that you cited scripture erroneously? Will you address the issue raised? Right now, I am sorely tempted to say what I is suspect the worst thing I could say to you. Despite your beliefs, I do happen to believe that Christians are subject to temptation. Being a Christian, I will resist it for now. In the language of my Baptismal Covenant which you reject, “I will, with God’s help.”
CJ
I’ve already said I got the Samaritan woman at the well in chapter 4 mixed up with the woman taken in adultery in chapter 8. I have nothing further to say about it.
You arent’ going to change your opinion of me, I’m sure. Nowhere do I recall saying that Christians aren’t subject to temptation or people have to belong to my church to be saved. People are saved when they accept Christ as Savior.
Aren’t we supposed to strive to please Him and do right, even if temptation comes and we fall once in awhile? That’s not the same as deliberately, defiantly living a life of sin. Why do I get the impression that you guys think that eveyone can just live any old sinful way they choose with no repentance or belief in Christ and be welcomed into heaven with a wink and a nod?
Maybe we are getting our wires crossed, maybe I’m misunderstanding and you’re misunderstanding. Anyway, I don’t really have anything further to say. This is pointless, we’re not going to see eye to eye.
Then that applies to Catholics and Mormons too, do you agree?
Do you not yet realize that you are turning peopel away from the Gospel with your postings?
Perhaps, dear heart, because you only wish to speak, and do not wish to listen or to understand? 
Stole my thunder, Mars did.
And why do you think you’re qualified to make judgements on the state of other people’s souls, especially given that by your own standards, you yourself are living in unrepentant sin.
You job, your only obligation as a Christian is to A) testify about the Good News of Jesus Christ and B) to love your neighbor as yourself. That means that you must feel compassion and mercy; you must weep with the mournful and laugh with the joyful. That means you must treat your neighbor as you would God.
It does not mean that you may point your finger at other people in condemntaion. IT’S NOT YOUR PLACE BECAUSE YOU, MADAM, ARE NOT GOD!