"Hitler mad scene"

In that clip, what was Hitler really discussing with his staff? Mods if this belongs in Politics or GQ, please move accordingly.

The fact that the wars is lost and pretty much all is lost for Germany. Everyone hid it from Hitler and now he is freaking out. Obviously, he killed himself in real life not long after.

Here it is with English subtitles.

While the rant contains a lot of Hitler claiming he was lied to, etc., in reality the German military elite were almost all incredibly loyal. Nothing of any significance had been hidden from Hitler. In fact, Hitler refused to believe the numbers that he was given about Soviet troop strength and such. To almost the end, he didn’t understand how badly beat up the remnants of his military was. This scene is his “a-ha” moment. The guy was just plain delusional. What a surprise.

That Hitler guy seems like kind of a jerk.

I highly recommend watching the actual film (Downfall with English subtitles, Der Untergang in German.)

You won’t believe what I heard about Mussolini…

Hmm. That Stalin guy Hitler mentions seemed to have some good ideas. Anyone know anything about him? He sounds like a real visionary.

Weren’t even the various conspirators who tried to kill him largely supportive of his aims, just certain that his madness would never get them there?

Where were the subtitles?

you have to click on the “CC” button directly below the video.

Had to search on YouTube. Obviously, Hitler had lost it by then.

I saw a WWII movie recently where a German officer identified his affiliation as SS-Gestapo.

Weren’t those two different organizations? Was it possible for an officer to be in both?

I could tell you, but it’s a spoiler for Game of Thrones.

Here is the organizational chart for all branches of the SS:

https://www2.bc.edu/~heineman/SSorg.jpg

That scene with Hitler has been fairly well documented in a number of biographies; Ian Kershaw’s come immediately to mind. IIRC, it was described in detail by Traudl Junge, one of Hitler’s secretaries, in her diary.

The reason for Hitler’s outburst is that the forces he was counting on to stop the Russians outside of Berlin failed miserably (largely because they existed mostly on paper). At the point where he’s informed that Steiner (commander of the XX SS, if I’m not mistaken) hasn’t launched his counteroffensive, he loses it and screams “Das war ein Befehl!” (“That was an order!”). He then goes on to admit for the first time ever that the war is lost.

Ho got so worked up over what he considered to a personal betrayal that he may actually have had a mild heart attack; he had had a progressive heart condition for well over a year.

Thanks for the chart. Somehow I got the impression that there was SS, and there was Gestapo. I never realized one was part of the other.

You know who else was kind of a jerk?

Never mind

Bruno Ganz (the legendary German actor playing Hitler) gets almost as mad as Hitler is in that scene if you mention it’s appropriation for the memes. He’s not amused.

nope.

#1 Bruno Ganz is Swiss
#2 He’s expressed some dismay at the parodies, but mostly because of how much he put into the role of playing Hitler. Doesn’t want to see his work trivialized: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLqC3DIgjY

Meh, I didn’t think he seemed that upset. He did admit it was all just for fun, and that a lot of them were pretty good.

If the comments on that video are to be believed, it’s

also a parody dub.