Holy Crap! Just finished watching AOTC. Dont open if you havent seen yet..SPOILERS

Wow. Much MUCH better than TPM. Especially after the slow begining.

I was very surprised by several things in this movie. The first was that the clones were GOOD guys in this flick. They saved the Jedi and kicked all kinds of ass! The commercials make you think that they wail on the Jedi but that does not happen.

I was amazed at the Yoda/Dooku fight. Very badass. Yoda owned him. I had heard about it before, but you just have to see it to really appreciate it.

Anakin gets his first piece of “add-on” hardware to his body in this flick too. I didn’t know that happened.

Did anyone else notice someone who looked just like Darth Vader walking away in the hangar after Dooku took off towards then end. Who the hell was that?

So these machine people are the ones who build the Death Star eh? Doesn’t make any sense to me but I guess it will after Eps3.

All in all I thought this was a good flick. Anakin was annoying, Amedila was annoying, but Obi Wan saved the acting day in this one. I really didn’t care for the whole Jango Fett thing. Didn’t make any sense to me. Why clone him? Are these clones the ACTUAL Stormtroopers? Or do they change again in the 3rd one because they do not look like the ones in Star Wars.

What did you think?

(I typed this all up and was getting ready to submit it when the hamsters went on their usual 4:30am constitutional. So just keep that in mind as you read this.)

This section spoiler-free*
If Episode I ruined your taste for Star Wars Episode II will bring it back.

I just came back from a midnight showing of Star Wars Episode II, Attack of the Clones (that is the first and last time you will ever see me type that all out). This movie is incredible. In some ways it even managed to make up for some of the dreadful parts of Episode I; you know, the parts in between the fight scenes. It had a comprehensible plot, better dialogue, and the acting is much improved. The comedy relief even deserves a mention: it made me chuckle or laugh out loud on more than a few occasions.

The action scenes were phenomenal. Intense light saber duels a very cool chase scene and a massive battle scene. They even managed to throw in a good bit of plain old-fashioned street brawling. ILM really outdid themselves with the special effects for this movie. I’m planning on seeing this movie again and soon.

Just a heads up though, even though this movie is greatly improved over the last one there are still some cheesy lines spoken and some of the actors still acted wooden; not all, just some.

[spoiler]If you’re reading this then I hope you’re not going to see the movie or like having surprises spoiled.

I keep trying to decide which part of the movie was the best and I can’t decide. The battle between Jango Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi was pretty intense as was the three way battle between Kenobi, Anakin and Dooku.

Both Mace Windu and Yoda had dramatic entrances into certain parts of the movie that told you in no uncertain terms that they were getting ready to kick some ass. Windu’s little flip move down to the floor of a stadium where a battle was getting ready to move into high gear and his fighting thereafter was a wonderful contrast to the serious, careful brooding that he had done so far in the series.

Yoda’s fight scene gets it’s own paragraph. When I first heard months ago that Yoda was going to be in a lightsaber duel in Episode II I was scared to death that it was going to be cheesy. Low and behold Lucas pulled it off and how. Initially scampering around Lord Dooku’s legs, deflecting lightsaber blows he quickly moves more into the offensive jumping around, leaping behind Dooku and just generally being a little green badass. I don’t think that I can really do the fight justice because I know how lame it must sound that a little green midget is holding his own against a six-foot tall man in a sword duel, but trust me, it’s cool. One thing I don’t get however is why can he run around and do flips when he’s fighting but still needs a cane to walk. WAG, I suppose that he channels the force when necessary and other than that just lets nature take its course. Whatever, the fight scene rocked.

The whole Amidala-Anakin romance just didn’t click with me. I understand why it’s there and as far as the plot goes it’s entertaining and enjoyable. But why Amidala would fall in love with a whiny immature jerk is beyond me. Not a knock on Hayden Christianson’s acting overall, because I think he was supposed to be a whiny, immature jerk.

Back to straight up geek mode, it was a complete fantasy come true to see a group of Jedi fighting a massive force and doing some severe damage. Sure they would have lost but seeing Windu flick his wrist behind his back to deflect a laser bolt with his light saber and blow up the droid who sent it; he’s still a badass motherfucker. And then there’s the part when you’re wondering how Anakin and company are going to survive being surrounded by battle droids with no weapons only to see lightsabers flashing into life among the surrounding crowd and realizing mayhem is about to ensue. And then when it looks like the Jedi are about to die Yoda comes to the rescue! With a clone army?

Speaking of the clones, in the movie they look and act cool, coming across as well trained and very mean soldiers. Not remotely like the storm troopers in episodes IV-VI with their “couldn’t hit the ground if I fell down” accuracy and bumping of heads on door frames. When you first see them all in uniform and marching it is definitely a sight to behold; it was spoiled in the TV trailers, but believe me when I say it doesn’t do them justice. And overall I have to say that the clone troopers’ uniforms look cooler than the cool storm trooper outfits of IV-VI.

All in all, the movie was immensely enjoyable, even if it did have some parts that were a bit corny and/or cheesy. The fight scenes alone are worth double the price of admission IMO.[/spoiler]

All I have to say is ‘Yoda with a light-saber!’ Oh my god!

I had tingles down my spine when he walked in looking mean, again when he started to kick ass using the force and especially when he brushed aside his cloak to reveal the light-saber - the cool way in which he did it and the look on his face was fabulous! Wonderful!

All the usual gushings about how the movie rocked.

I also learned two important bits of Star Wars lore:

  1. Senators don’t wear bras.

  2. Tatooine is apparently much colder than previously believed.

:smiley:

All the usual gushings about how the movie rocked.

I also learned two important bits of Star Wars lore:

  1. Senators don’t wear bras.

  2. Tatooine is apparently much colder than previously believed.

:smiley:

Caught a midnight showing of AOTC earlier today…

My non-spoiler review, with one spoiler section below the appropriate remark:

STRENGTHS

  1. While it isn’t as good as “The Empire Strikes Back”, the “Star Wars” movie by which all other “Star Wars” movies must be judged, “Attack of the Clones” is a significantly better movie than “The Phantom Menace.”

  2. Much darker than “The Phantom Menace”, which suffered from too much cutesiness.

  3. Compared to the previous “Star Wars” movies, which all had a a relatively linear plot-line, AOTC has a virtually labyrinthine plot-line. My friends and I had to discuss it for about half an hour after the movie to sort everything out. And even then, I’ll have to see the movie at least one more time just to make sure I’ve got everything straight.

  4. Unlike “Phantom Menace”, this one has a lot of genuine humor in it.

  5. Jango Fett.

  6. Yoda.

  7. Yoda! I especially liked how he resumed walking very slowly after the lightsaber duel. It reveals the extent to which is leisurely gait is nothing more than an act designed to make others underestimate him. Brilliant!

  8. As I expected, the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi is greatly expanded in this movie, and he plays a very significant role in this movie.

  9. Jar-Jar Binks is on screen for about five minutes…maximum.

  10. Christopher Lee.

  11. Special effects were, as expected, top-of-the-line.
    WEAKNESSES

  12. George Lucas doesn’t know how to avoid writing clunky dialogue. While most of the dialogue in the movie is serviceable, there are too many places where it grates on the ear.

  13. The CGI effects, while spectacular, were sometimes overdone. Lucas needs to build an actual set everyone once in a while.

  14. There’s a key scene involving Anakin that comes straight out of the Dictionary of Movie Cliches. It’s the only thing in the movie that severely annoyed me. I’ll discuss this scene in the spoiler box below:

Having Shmi Skywalker die in Anakin’s arms just moments after he arrives is straight out of the Movie Cliche Dictionary. Puh-leeze.

If I was writing that scene, here’s what I would have done: Have Anakin carry Shmi out of the Tusken Raider camp. The Tusken Raiders notice this and attack the duo. Shmi is killed as a result, and Anakin slaughters all the Raiders in retaliation. The advantage of doing it this way is that you would give Anakin an extra dose of guilt in the process, which would further lay the foundation for his eventual conversion to the Dark Side.

  1. Not enough Jango Fett.

I am definitely going to see this movie again. Soon.

I’m surprised that people are saying that they liked Anakin’s acting. I’d consider him in the bottom five actors I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen Kathy Ireland’s “acting”. Anakin’s was on a similar par.

He’s got this on-again/off-again Bronx accent, his stop. AND start. reading of lines his weird accentING of odd sylLABles and his whiney voice made any scene with him in it unpleasant at minimum, laughable and grating at maximum. And with the occasionally atrocious dialogue, made parts of this movie instant MST3K fodder. (Although it’s <ahem> parsecs better than Phantom Menace)

Imagine John Travolta as Vinnie Barbarino-only with less talent-reading lines like (paraphrased): “Princess, da sands. Uv TatTOine, dey Ah rough. An’ filled wid sand. But not youah skin. Which ain’t sandy ouh rough! It IS smoot’. Like my luv foah you.”

On the other hand, Natalie Portman was pretty good, Obi-Wan wasn’t bad, but didn’t feel like Obi-Wan for the second half of the film (I don’t know how to better describe my feeling about Obi…his performance was good, it just didn’t seem Obi-Wan-esque), Dooku(sp) was amazing: whoever he was, he had the best performance in the entire movie and stole the whole damn show. Palpatine was great too. Baby Boba was surprisingly good, given Lucas’s track record with child actors (Manakin Skywalker anyone?) was a pleasant surprise.

That said, some of the chase scenes and effects were astounding. The alien chick that took Obi-Wan to meet Jango was an astonishingly good piece of CGI. The female assassin chase scene was exciting and extremely well filmed. The big arena fight was fun to watch. And the scene with Yoda and the baby Jedi was so damned well done that I’d like to go back and see the movie again.

On a nerdish/fanboy note, why did Yoda have to concentrate to stop that pillar? For that matter, why didn’t he just hold Duku’s ship? “Size matters not!” he said. “Jedis lie” I reply, since size obviously does matter.

The one huge flaw in this movie, as well as in The Phantom Menace is that Lucas has allowed his love of the techie stuff (which I love too) to swamp the story. Look at the fight between Luke and Darth in Jedi: the camera is up-close and personal. Would the intensity of the scene be improved if, when Darth says “Sister! You have a sister! Well if you will not turn, then perhaps she will!” and Luke flies out of the shadow screaming “NOOoooo!” if the camera had been pulled back 50 feet and a huge amout of CGI was going on in the background? Of course not: the sense of Titans battleing would have been lost in the noise. In the “Yoda Kicks Ass” scene, the camera was too far back and there was no…intensity…no drama…in the cinematography. It was bland. The scene was great withy Yoda flying around like a little green Tazmanian Devil, but geez Lucas, how much better would it have been if you’d done something…anything with the camera instead of just pointing the camera straight at the action? The light-sabre duels in the original movies were filmed in an epic fashion, showing the particpants as larger-than-life. In Phantom and Clones, the lackluster cinematography seems more like a bad documentary.

Overall, I liked Clones quite a lot, but A) George: Get actors who can act and B) Special effects are great, but good camera work is better.

Fenris

Oh. I thought he was simply tired after all that exertion.

My review will have to wait. I saw this movie last night/this morning (Western Australian time - so it was 17 hours ago) so I’ve been up far too long for a young lad like myself.
But it rocked!

Good point. But his gait is indistinguishable from how he walks the rest of the time…I really don’t see the difference.

That was Christopher Lee. He of Saruman the White, Count Drakula, and star of a host horror movies. He’s good. (At being baaad!)

Argh, to bed with me!

My girlfriend and I were at the midnight show too. The thing was packed with all sorts of fans. We got there a half hour early after buying our tickets online and we still had to sit in the front row. The dialogue was cheesy as hell but the whole move was a huge build up to Yoda kicking some major ass. Honestly, I didn’t think it was worth going to the midnight show until I saw Yoda do his thing. It was awesome. I will be seeing it again at a much more decent hour.

Ok, 'cos the thread title screams Spoilers, I have no qualms about not using the spoiler tag here.

Blame this on being too tired to fully comprehend the movie beyond its eye candy last night (which is why I’m seeing it at noon tomorrow as well), but can someone provide a reasonable explanation behind the creation of the clone army? Dooku/Tyrannus seemed surprised at its existence, but Palpatine/Sidious would be the logical person who put the plan into work … wouldn’t he? Who was the ultimate conspirator behind the clone army?

And in geekfanboy mode:
oh my god lightsabers arena jedi jedi jedi I think I wet my pants

There. And the dialogue sucked, but it was a good kind of sucking, not a bad kind of sucking.

Slow moving, too long, badly acted. I expected that. Not enough action, I had heard about that. The dialogue (“This is why I hate flying” “You are in my soul” “…my young Padwan”) was abyssmal. But it was still relatively well done, especially compared with Episode I. There is actual depth to the story line – (more spoilers) Dooku and Darth Sidius appear to be playing both sides of the coin. They built a clone army and they encouraged the traders/separatists to withdraw. They wanted only to create war, which apparently they had done.

Things to happen in the next movie:

  1. Amidala, Mace Windu, the Jedi with the big narrow head and most of the rest of the Jedi council are gonna die.
  2. Anakin will take some serious body damage, probably in fighting and killing Dooku to become the right-hand man to the Lord of the Sith.
  3. Yoda to Dagobah, Kenobi to Tatooine.
  4. Leia and Luke born and separated (probably at around age 3 is my guess).

I liked the parallels present in the story. Dooku, former Padwan of Yoda and master to Qui-Gon Jinn (who was master to Obi Wan), cuts the hand off of Anakin, Padwan of Obi Wan. Anakin then goes on to cut the hand off of another Padwan of Yoda and Obi-Wan, his son Luke. The Emperor will probably pit Anakin against Dooku in Episode III, just like he pitted Luke against Vader in Jedi. I liked the inclusion of Uncle Owen and Aunt Veru. Most of the CGI has very well done, but some of the characters (greasy spoon owner, one of those trader dudes, Yoda in some respect) still look like CGI and not real actors, which I find detract from the movie. But it was nice, it was enjoyable, and about worth the price of admission.

Well, I also saw it. Loved it.

My order goes like this:

  1. Empire Strikes Back
  2. Return of the Jedi/Attack of the Clones
  3. New Hope.
  4. Phantom Menace.

Questions!!!

  1. Who do you think was saying, “No, Anakin, No!” when Yoda was meditating and sensing Anakin killing the Tusken raiders ? I think it was Liam Nieson(Qui-Gon), but it’s tough to tell upon one viewing. Something I will be paying attention for tonight when I see it again.

  2. Who hired the Tusken raiders to kidnap Schmi? Too much coincidence to be random.

You gotta love how Yoda doesn’t even reach for his lightsaber.

At the screening I was at, the cheering started before we even saw that it was Yoda. It was a fun environment, the crowd was into it, and they were laughing at both the intentional and the unintentional comedy. Jar-Jar got a hearty hiss when he appeared on-screen.

I loved some of the in-jokes, how parsecs kept being mentioned, obviously as units of distance. “You’re going to be the death of me.” “I love democracy.”

It really reminded me at times of the wonder and sense of joy that I felt seeing the first movie, a long time ago.

But…

Incomprehensible dialogue.

Crazy-as-hell plot. “I have to stay here so I can vote!” Huh? More sides and factions than the Spanish Civil War. The first three weren’t about political intrigue, and they were better for it. They were about good and evil and kicking ass, not partisan politics and filibustering.

Let’s get this straight once and for all. When thousands of one-off clones fight thousands of robots, I don’t give a flying eggroll who wins. I know it’s technically impressive and all, and no disrespect to the hundreds of people who surely spent hundreds of man-years slaving over the dust that splashes up just so, but I. Don’t. Care. I was looking at my watch and waiting for the lightsaber fight. Which did not disappoint.

Hey George, girls liked the original trilogy. Cuz Leia was a badass, among other reasons. They don’t need sun-dappled love stories and ridiculously cheesy dialogue. I know I don’t. The entire theater laughed at nearly every line in those scenes. Thank the maker you cut away occasionally.

Thanks for the Jar-Jar thing. But it was not necessary to take a great character and turn him into the new Jar-Jar. I don’t need comic relief in my battle scenes. And somehow you robbed C-3PO of his dignity after three movies full of prissiness and ridiculous situations failed to do so.

After all this, I really liked it and will go see it again. Only real passion would allow this type of criticism. Between this, Spider-Man, and last year’s Ocean’s Eleven, I wonder if we are getting back to the fun, joyful studio film. I hope so.

SPOILER:

Movie was awsome.

Loved all the parts everyone mentioned; here is a few left out.

The c3P0 - droid head swap was awsome. Very funny IMHO

The fact that the whole Darth Vader / Empire thing was really Jar-Jar’s and Tuskan Raiders fault was kind of amusing. (i know there is more but if you just look at the movie)

Okay, my new question.

In Episode IV, Luke is handed a blue lightsaber by Obi-Wan and told that it belonged to his father.

In Episode II, we see that Anakin has a green lightsaber, not blue.

Bwa? Is the explanation that Anakin builds his own in Ep III like Luke does in Ep VI, and it’s blue in 3?

We also see that Anakin had a knack for losing or destroying his lightsabers, so he’ll eventually get pretty good at building them. He has a red one in the original trilogy. I’m sure that in the next movie, he will wield a blue saber, and it will come into Obi-Wan’s posession.

I just saw this at the midnight showing, and it was really good!! Some really awesome special effects and an Epic battle in the end, and even Yoda gets in on the action. Despite some bad dialogue and some inconsistencies, the movie is a lot of fun and I enjoyed watching it and would see it again! We even got to see the trailer of the original star wars movie before it started; and it was cool to see how far they have come since then. I was really impressed by how the cities and planets were depicted and the space scenes and asteroid fields looked. I also enjoyed the humor they added and one of the best things is that jar jar isn’t in it very much at all! Definitely much better than the first one!

I’d definitely recommend it for everyone to see! It just sucks now that the next one won’t come out for quite a while!!

It was Sidious and Tyrannus. At least that what it looked like to me. Tyrannus was lying when he said he didn’t know anything about the clone army, of course he did. If you recall he told Obi-Wan he didn’t know anything about Jango Fett and yet he’s standing right behind him when they’re getting ready to try and execute Anakin and Co. Remember at the end he says to Sidious “The war has begun” or something like that. Sidious and Tyrannus were playing both sides. Tyrannus whipped up separatist sentiments in some systems and got those systems to put up an army, which forced the Rebuplic to give Sidious emergency powers, which he used to draft (or utilize) the pre-existing clone army, which he had had the cloners start building ten years earlier in secret.

Not trying to sound smart but the plot of Episode II made sense to me. Someone else described it as labyrinth, and I agree, but I think that it was supposed to be that way. Sidious has got a long-term plan that involves lots of lies and manipulating one group against another. Take a look at why Anakin’s such an ass-brick: he’s got Obi-Wan Kenobi as his mentor, which should keep him chilled out, but he’s got Sidious whispering sweet nothings in his ear about how he’ll be the greatest Jedi ever. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s playing Tyrannus as well and is going to betray him in favor of Anakin when the time is right.

Why did Amidala have assassins after her? Because of how bad she screwed the Trade Federation in Episode I. The Trade Federation actually states that they’ll help Dooku if he gets rid of Amidala. And of course that would work for Sidious because then Jar Jar would be the ranking diplomatic representative from Naboo and he’s a hell of a lot easier to manipulate than Amidala. Tho’ she’s a bit of a sucker too, she did call for the vote of no-confidence in Episode I at his prodding.

If anyone else had trouble understanding parts of the movie go ahead and ask me; I think I’ve got a pretty good grip on the plot.