I know there are a lot of AOTC threads here, but I want this one to forget all about reviews, comments, suggestions, reactions to the acting and the love story, etc. etc.
Just the facts, ma’am.
(I know this should technically go in General Questions, but this is all about Star Wars, for chrissake, and Cafe Society is where all the expert movie geeks will be.)
Last warning to those who didn’t read the title:
MAJOR PLOT POINT SPOILERS FOLLOW
DONT READ IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE MOVIE YET
Tell me if this is correct:
Jedi Masters and their Padawans
Yoda trains Count Dooku (or is his name Tyrranus?)
Dooku in turn trains Qui-Gon Jinn
Qui-Gon Jinn trains Obi-Wan Kenobi
Obi-Wan Kenobi trains Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi trains Luke Skywalker (ep. IV)
Yoda trains Luke Skywalker (ep. V)
Coresponding Sith Lord Masters and Trainees
Darth Sidious trains Darth Maul
Darth Sidious trains Count Dooku
Darth Sidious trains Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
(perhaps the latter two should read “turns” or “becomes master of” rather than trains).
Of course, this assumes (and from all the other threads most everyone agrees) that Darth Sidous = Chancellor Palpatine = The Emperor.
As far as Palpatine’s master plan, am I missing anything here:
Starting back in ep. I, then-Senator Palpatine initiates his grand scheme by
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Killing (or causing to have killed) Jedi Sipho-Diaz and having Dooku impersonate him and order the Clone Army started (supposedly for the Jedi Council)
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Instigate the Trade Federation to go against the Republic (via whatever that Naboo embargo stuff was that I forget) in order to pose a threat to the Republic which allows him to get elected Chancellor
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Have Dooku instigate/rally systems to rebel against the Republic (maybe succeed would be a better term) and to coordinate their efforts and construct a droid army to threaten the Republic
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When the Clone Army is ready, have Senator Amadila assassinated (or perhaps knowing the assassination would be prevented, just the attempted assassination) to get her away from the Senate vote so that the threats to the Republic get him granted emergency powers, giving him initially the power to use the Clone Army and in the longer term to assume complete power, which he eventually uses to (almost) become dictator of everything and everyone, wiping out all the Jedi in the process, and in the beginning of ep. IV wiping out the last “remains of the Senate.”
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Encourages Anakin Skywalker’s ego, rebellious streak (and probably) forbidden love in order to get him to turn to the dark side
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Probably is responsible for the capture and torture of Anakin’s mother for the same reason (why else would the sand people want her if not paid to?) (and is it a coincidence that she dies in his arms, or is she kept alive specifically for him to find her and see her die?)
Actually, I don’t remember Jedi Tyrannus from the movie, but I keep seeing this name mentioned in all the other threads here. Is Dooku originally a Jedi known as Tyrannus and now after he’s broken away from the Republic and I suppose therefore broken away from the Jedi he’s taken the name Dooku? Is there a different explanation I may have missed?
What’s the deal with Boba Fett… I couldn’t help but notice his little laugh three or four different times; are they imitating a laugh we hear Boba Fett use in later episodes? I don’t remember, but maybe… Also, I don’t understand why it was important to have Boba Fett in this episode. My recollection is that he is used later as a plot device for Han Solo to need to flee Tatooine and so to reluctantly agree to take Luke and Obi-Wan off on their adventure that he gets pulled in to, and later for Luke to go to Jaba the Hutt’s in order to save him. I don’t remeber him being obsessed against the Jedi who killed his father. Was there some reason for this?
How much time is there between ep. II and ep. IV? Judging from the age difference of Obi-Wan (he seems about 30 in ep. II and about 80 in ep. IV) I would guess about 50 years. Yet Luke is only about 20 in ep. II. Does he not get born for 30 more years after Anikin and Padme are married? OK, if Obi-Wan is say, 40 in ep. II, does it take 20 years for Luke and Leia to be born? Or are they born and then frozen for 20 years? What? I would say the ages of Owen and Aunt Veru match these same time guesses. On the other hand, does it really take the Emperor 50 years to build the death Star that he clearly already has the plans for? Or just 50 years to gain enough power to get away with building it?
OK, I’m starting to ramble. I meant to just get the basic facts straight. Am I missing any other important plot points?