homosexuality and the society

Now there’s an admonishment you don’t hear every day! :slight_smile:

< snickers > Now there’s a phrase one seldom hears ! “Jimmy, put down that book this instant, and watch more television !”

More seriously, what “lifestyle” do homosexuals have in public that straights don’t ?

You’re asking him to embarrass himself! Minotaurus never would have started this thread if he were comfortable with discussing gay activities in detail! :wink:

Well, in all fairness, I rarely see straights hanging out on the corner with rings through their bare nipples. Some gays do really seem to want to put it all out there and in your face.

Der Trihs, Brain Glutton

Perhaps you need to spend more time basking in the glowing warmth of television’s warming glow.

It’s nourishing power earned it the names Boob Tube and Glass Teat.

What’s on? It doesn’t matter.

Just turn on, tune in, and let your mind rise up. Just sit there and let the electrode gun shoot it’s love ray into your heart.

It is NOT a cathode ray tube! A cathode is negative. We are the cathodes, big balls of negative energy needing to be healed. It is the anode, positive, pouring out good energy over us all.

God is in the machine.

Depends which corners you’re hanging out on. If you don’t want to see nipple rings & same sex couples making out, one might think twice about having the family picnic at the corner of Castro & 16th St., in San Francisco.

Because Minotaurus won’t have it, can’t you understand, Polycarp!?

:stuck_out_tongue:

No one here is trying to make discussion difficult. We’re just trying to ascertain exactly what you wish to discuss. Help us out, won’t you?

I’m not trying to make it difficult. I’m actually trying to ask a legitimate question.

Why should the rules for public behavior be different for gay people than they are for straight people?

And like several of the others, I’m wondering what behavior specifically you are having pushed in your face? I have a hard time believing that you’re being forced to watch gay sex, so it seems you’re complaining about seeing men kiss. If that’s the extent of your complaint, I’m afraid I can’t feel very sorry for you.

“Oh, Dr. Hackenbush!”

  1. Are you actually trying to claim that people kissing constitutes “vulgar sex-related suff”?

  2. If so, are you also going to demand that straight couples stop kissing in public as well?

The gay folks I know are not like this, from what I can tell. However, I have attended the Gay Pride parade numerous times here in Chicago, and as I’m sure many of you know, it is pretty outrageous. Out of all the parades I have been to in Chicago, it is the only one with naked people marching down the street, that is for sure. So, maybe (I’m giving the benefit of the doubt here), it is this kind of thing that the OP was referring to? And not just general, “oh, there are the guys who live next door, holding hands.”

Another story I just thought of…we used to have a gay couple living next door to us, and they seemed like cool guys. One day, though, we were coming home, and realized that from our porch we could see their PC monitor clear as day if we glanced in their window (our houses are attached, so their living room window was RIGHT THERE). Lo and behold, one of them was surfing really raunchy gay porn, right there for us to enjoy with him. YIKES! We were going to ask them to be sure the shade was pulled down (not for us, necessarily, but for any guests or kids who might be around). They moved, so we didn’t have to have that conversation, thank goodness. So, anyway, I don’t have any problem with what anyone wants to do behind closed doors, but I do think the world would not be worse off if people had some discretion.

Emphasis mine.

Really, there is nothing I can add.

(Oh, and gay pride parades may get a little raunchy, but no more than, say, straight displays of sexuality during Mardi Gras or similar; I’m guessing, however, that Minotaurus would object to only one of these, and you win a prize if you guess which one.)

Would it piss you off so much to see two women making out, or is it just male gays who sicken you so?

Women… making out… in bikinis… covered in honey…

Whole 'nother story, ain’t it? :dubious:

Look, minotaurus. Get an argument, or get out of here. “Gays are stupid and gross and they shouldn’t be in public” is not a Great Debate in any sense. A debate needs arguments, for crying out loud. You’ve been asked by at least a half dozen posters to define your terms when you speak of “vulgarity”, and gay “culture” and lifestyle". Make an effort, please.

From your other threads, I’m getting the feeling that you’d be a whole lot happier living off in a cabin in the woods somewhere without a TV or anything else around to insult your worldview.

I was going to pop back into this thread and throw the OP that particular lifeline, because I do take him at his word about not being concerned with public handholding. However, let’s keep in mind that you can’t put the onus on “gay people” to put a lid on the more outrageous elements in the group. I mean, do we say “Hey, you Irish people really need to do something about those falling-down-drunk guys at the St Paddy’s day celebration”, do we? And just because there isn’t a “straight pride parade” doesn’t mean there isn’t a whole lot of outrageous exhibits of straight sex activites out there.

I think **Brainglutton **called it when he said that society has become more open about sex in general over the last few decades, and I don’t see that gay people are particularly out in front on that issue-- if anything, they’re just following the general trend that been going on for quite some time.

Both straight people and gay people, right? Surely you’re not saying that this sort of thing is only done by gays, are you? I’ve seen lots of straigh porn left out in plain view in people’s houses. Lots.

OK, I wasn’t trying to say they were bad people, and I wasn’t glancing in their window on purpose, any more than (I think), he had set it up this way on purpose. The monitor was RIGHT THERE! It was literally 3 feet from where we were standing, at our own front door, and we could see it without even turning our heads (we have bay windows, so the window actually FACES our porch).

I would have been just as uncomfortable if it was any kind of porn. I would never, never put my TV or my monitor literally IN MY WINDOW, so people could see it like that. You could actually see it from the sidewalk. Do you really think this is appropriate?

Oh, come on. It’s not as though the gays whom Minotaurus so hates and fears are on TV, or even in his street. It’s just the knowledge that they are somewhere out there, practising their filthy vulgar activities, and that they neither know nor care about Minotaurus’s repressed homosexuality homophobia that so gets to him. Even if we were to drop Minotaurus off in the woods I have a feeling he’d still sit there, little wrinkled lips* pursed in prurient disgust mixed with secret yearning as he fantasizes about what those dirty queers must be getting up to and why won’t the guv’mint listen to honest, upright (well, hunched under a weight of loathing and misanthropy) god-fearing folks?!

*I somehow envisage Minotaurus as a little wrinkled old man, slightly incontinent, with hair coming out of his ears, yelling at the kids to get off of his lawn.

All that is true, but I am actually Irish, and rather embarrassed by that kind of drunken display. Again, as I said, I think there is not enough dignity in our society. And the Irish do not walk down the street naked, either.

I completely agree with that.

Absolutely, it’s done by straights. Don’t like this any better (as I should have clarified, incidentally, my bad.) I do not want to see ANY PORN in CLEAR VIEW of my front porch, thank you very much.

I just kind of thought it was a funny story, and weird that this is the only time I have ever seen porn on full display in someone’s front window, and the people happened to be gay. Although, as I said, very nice folks.

Incidentally, where on earth do you live that you have all this porn display everywhere? That is wild…or do I just not notice it?

Well I have underlying libertarian leanings, so take my views with a grain of salt, but I don’t think I have any real objection to this. Now that you’ve clarified, I can see that you might have wanted to ask them, as a courtesy, to pull the blind, but otherwise: it is their property, they aren’t violatiing any laws, they can knock themselves out. But I can see why you were concerned. It’s just that the way you phrased your original comment, it sounded rather along the lines of “If I crouch on top of my wardrobe and squint I can see the reflection of those nasty sex-people!” :smiley:

Oh no no no…it was right there for all to see. And I actually was dreading talking to him about it…because I think he would have been just as embarrassed as I was! I’m SURE it was inadvertent on his part, but as I say, it is good when you live in a neighborhood, with you know, neighbors, and children, etc., that you think a little about where you place the computer! :slight_smile: