"Homosexuality is caused by overcrowding."

That little gem was dropped in my lap this afternoon. Followed quickly by:
“If you put too many rats in one cage, they engage in increased male on male homosexuality and violence. It has a purpose, which is to reduce the population, like AIDS.”

Um. What? I ask, dreading the response.

“Look, most of your homosexual activity, it occurs in really big cities, like San Francisco or New York or London. You don’t see a lot of gays in small towns. The exceptions are very religious places, like Salt Lake or Mexico City. Because religious people don’t produce as many gays.”

I…WHAT??? That is the stupidest…and the rats…AIDS is a tool for population control??! Where the HELL did you get this? What about gay women? What about gay people in small towns getting the crap beat out of them? I mean, did you think maybe that might be a deterrent for coming out? WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THIS??

“It’s a fact. I’ll drop you by some literature tomorrow.”

Oh, good. I can hardly wait.

There are days when my office is so surreal. I don’t think our new warehouse guy is working out. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee he isn’t going to last the week. He’s going to get a visit from HR.

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Uh wow, some people make my mind hurt.

Good grief! Can you scan the ‘literature’ and upload the images somewhere so we can all point and laugh?!

It may not be worth your time. However, I offer this joke: First God made the United States, then he called all the gay people before Him and ordered, “You! Run to the edges!”

There are more gay people in cities because people go to cities in order to have anonymity and options, not to mention the kinds of organizations and services that population centers offer.

Your informant is referring to a “behavioral sink.” It’s one situation in which same-sex-directed mating behaviors are seen. It doesn’t explain all of the other situations in which that behavior is seen.

All transmittable diseases are spread more rapidly when people are in close proximity. That’s no more true of HIV than of many other diseases, and considerably less true of HIV than of many. Tuberculosis, for example, or polio.

Well, yes, not to mention people are more likely to settle where they feel welcomed. A lack of hostility is consdered a good thing. Unfortunately the most coherent argument I could muster when the idiot blurted out this lunacy was a horrified/perplexed look and “Wh…?”

Well, it’s sort of true that you don’t see as many gays in small and/or religious towns. They tend to either hide or move to San Francisco or New York or London.

I don’t have a scanner, but I’m sure they have a website. I’m also fairly sure it’s religious in nature…

Are you allowed to suggest that the person who said this is an ignorant piece of rat shit, who would not recognize a piece of sound logic if it was being used to beat some sense into his thick as the earth’s crust saurian brain?

Just wondering,
Jim

Yes, it’s not as if logical arguments will convince him.

Ya know, this is when I want to go… “I completely agree! I’ve been following the same musings of < insert whoever wonderful individual here > and they believe the same thing!! Isn’t it just amazing and heartwarming and positive at the same time? Would you like to see some for yourself? Really!? Wonderful! I even have a handy link. Just go to hitleristhebomb.com and you’ll see this guy feels the same way we do. Just gotta spread the message, because if we don’t, the world is headed to hell without ever seeing the light!”

The ‘overcrowding breeds instability story’ is old:

Behavioral sinks
Calhoun, John B. 1962. “Population Density and Social Pathology.” Scientific American 206:139-148.

Okay, yes, but…hasn’t it been debunked to death? I just can’t get my mind around the concept that people actually believe that horseshit.

Aren’t you a manager? Are you arranging the HR visit?

Assuming you’re not arranging the visit, someteims you just have to employ tactical rudeness. Make him decide HE never wants to talk to YOU again. Step one: over-peppered soup.

Guy came by my office a few weeks ago. “Heard you’re interested in politics.” Ay-yuh. He proceeds to ask me if I’ve heard about how the ovens in Auschwitz couldn’t possibly have been used for the extermination of human beings, and about how the Zionist cabal has used their control of banking and the media to put out a doctored version of the “so-called” Holocaust.

I listened to it for a couple of minutes, and then I cut him off, shut him down, and tore him to pieces, and then kicked him out of my office.

On the up side, he thinks I’m a smart guy and respects my opinion, so I’m pretty sure he’s rethinking his views.

On the down side, fuck.

And Des Moines, Iowa.

I don’t think it’s been debunked because it’s true. For rats.

But not to worry. Once you put the rats back into a bucolic setting that is not overcrowded and give them behavioral therapy you can make them heterosexual again, and they can learn the maze at the same time!

They tried putting me in a maze. I still haven’t found the damn cheese.

That’s because it’s in the fridge, not the underwear drawer.
Was my hometown overcrowded at 30K people? Several of my HS classmates have turned out gay. I could have laughed myself to stitches when Mom found out one of the guys she’d been badgering me about dating when I was 15 came out, but I was polite and managed to keep a more-or-less straight face. I can name several others.

Only if they accept Christ into their hearts.

Well of course us Godless Heathens had to create AIDS and Teh Gey. After all, the religious way to keep population down – which is called war – dosen’t seem to be working quite well enough…

I **would **be going to Hell for this, if it existed