You aren’t zaftig enough to be Rhoda.
And you’re missing the headscarf.
But if it makes you feel any better, I’ll be Kaye Ballard to your Eve Arden in a modern day remake of 'The Mothers-in-Law"
How do you know that no one appreciated it? Did you embed spyware in the posts that monitors the responses of anyone sitting at the keyboard and reading it, and reports back to you? If so, then I’m miffed that you totally disregarded my snortle* when I read it! 
- “Snortle” – a cross between a chortle and an amused snort.
I can - I haven’t lately - and there isn’t much in North Beach in the way of dance clubs for those of us closer to Boomer than Gen-X. About the only place is the Saloon, which is always fun but certainly a dive. I learned most of my dancing in gay bars in the 80’s I did once win a swing contest, but I’d need some serious warm-up to attempt that again!
I’m willing to have every Gay man in the Castro take your oath, but it’s gonna take me some time… I think that it would have to be a one on one oath, asked individually… 
Although… I guess if I went to some of the sex clubs South of Market, I could probably be done in about 10 years or so… but I’m willing to sacrifice for my straight neighbors…
Will they have occasional relapses?
Rock 'n Roll never forgets.
I live in North Beach, I dance in Soma.
The saloon can break your heart. It is constantly answering the musical question:
How many spectacular musicians are playing for tips to a “crowd” of ten people (of whom five are over sixty…)
I live round the corner from the saloon, so I walk past it’s empty dance floor four or five times in a night.
The swing win is promising–can you tango? want to learn? (I can’t and do)
(Isn’t there a rule against having this discussion in Great Debates?)
I don’t know how to tango, would consider trying, but remember a real disaster when I tried to learn to rhumba. Still, dancing is my favorite form of exercize and I could do to get back into shape.
I know what you mean about the Saloon, but it’s such a treasure for blues fans - and one of the places in the neighborhood where I know some of the bartenders well enough to be treated better than the tourists. It’s also the closest thing we have left to a biker bar.
Shall we dance? Or meet and discuss it?
Specifically: “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.” (Eze 16:49 AV)
There is also this: “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 1:7 AV)
I suppose that if you were really inclined to, you could interpret “going after strange flesh” to refer to homosexuality.
I’m sorry, I thought a debate was going on here. Nevermind.
To the theme tune of Record Breakers
Fornication, Fornication,
Fornication, that’s what you need
If you didn’t choose the best, and you wanna f*ck the rest,
Then Fornication is what you need
If you wanna be a wedlock breaker.
The bible also clearly states that wearing cotton-polyester blends is sinful.
Deuteronomy 22:11 “Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woolen and linen together.” and also in Leviticus " 19:19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee." Not only that, but apparently flower gardens with more than one species of flower in them are sinful too!
Are your closets and gardens free from sin? If not, I think you ought to worry more about the sinning going on in your own home than the sins of others. You know, remove the mote from your own eye…
I’m taking a big risk here, by not reading the entire thread. But, my reaction is if you “changed”, then you really did not. You were supposedly bi, so you merely cut your chance of “conquests” down some. You live your life, let those of us who don’t see the world your way live ours. Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed for their cruelty and inhospitality. But that is besides the point. Some of us are not interested in whether anyone “approves” of us anymore. Be cool. Be smart. Be good at sports, or something. Don’t be nerdy, don’t be good at things that are not “cool”. Wear the right style clothes, get the right haircut, hold the right opinions, get the right job, live with the “right” person. Some of us (myself included) would say I don’t want to conform to please you. For what? So you can dream up more things to obey? Mind your own business.
Bats are birds? Holy shit! I never knew that!
So much for literal interpretations and all that. ROFL
Were’nt Sodom and Gormorah detroyed by an earthquake which shook the ground enough to generate liquifaction, therebyflooding and half burying the cities before the ground movement made the Dead Sea slosh in and wash the remains away, covering up anything that was left?
Whatsthat? A supreme being did it because the people living there were unpleasant?
Oh…my bad.
On an aside - i must say its quite entertaining when someone posts a daft OP like this. Critical mass is reached around post number 20, the poster doesnt come back, and everyone chills and has a laff. I quite enjoy reading the post “post” banter.
Sin
I have a bit of a nitpick.
Those who say “Oh you can’t eat shellfish then etc.”
I think (correct me if wrong) that God made those kosher laws just for the Jews, not gentiles.
Yeah, I had reverend Tim Phelps appear on my program to discuss this very thing. Man he was angry!!
It was a wild program. Essentially, yes… it is undeniable that the Bible condemns homosexuality and that they should be put to death.
The problem as I see it is that Christians that are against homosexuality seem to pick and choose which scriptures they want to believe in. Many reverends use the old testament as a reference to shows Yahweh’s disgust with homosexuality.
However, they skip over the hundreds of other OT laws. Killing violators of the Sabbath, killing disobedient children etc… You don’t hear preachers shouting this stuff out from the mountaintops.
Hypocrites, all of them!!
In reason,
The Infidel Guy
http://www.infidelguy.com
Whether it’s undeniable depends on who you ask. There are good arguments to be made that the original ban was aimed at keeping Jews away from male temple prostitutes. There are earlier injunctions against sex with female temple prostitutes, as it was considered a form of idolatry.
Then, we can get into the exact Hebrew word translated as abomination. Some may call this nitpicking. However, quite a bit of the Talmud is devoted to understanding exactly why one word or phrase was used instead of another EG That the phrase ‘all the days of your life’ is not identical in meaning to ‘the days of your life’.