BeepKillBeep:
That poll is terrifying. 79% of Republicans think Trump is taking the party in the right direction? Holy crap, the USA is completely screwed.
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Since the right direction for the Republican Party is “toward dissolution,” one might consider that encouraging …
Monty
September 30, 2017, 1:47am
1862
Nah. Let’s screw with him. Tell the orange twerp that to save money on rebuilding, it’ll have to be on higher land because the sea level is rising.
SteveG1:
And at the same time Resident Chump keeps talking about some yuge sums of money PR owes to Wall Street.
I see vultures circling very soon if not already…
“disaster capitalists” buying land for pennies on the dollar, from people already teetering on the edge,
etc etc etc etc.
Maybe Trump plans to buy Puerto Rico for cheap and make it into his own personal kingdom. Raze everything, haul off the debris, evict the people, install golf courses, resorts, shopping malls, and a giant palace at one end surrounded by a big WALL. I’ll bet the idea has crossed his mind (what he uses for a mind).
Thelma, that would mean Trump actually has the power to summon hurricanes. No wonder we’re seeing so many this year!
No, he didn’t summon the hurricane. He would just be taking advantage. Then after he builds his kingdom, he’ll insure it to the hilt, so when the next hurricane wipes it out, he’ll clean up. Winner!
Monty
September 30, 2017, 6:09am
1866
I just realized we’re all going about this the wrong way. We should apply some child psychology to handle the child at 1600 Pennsylvania.
Donnie, don’t you know it takes a big man to admit he’s in the wrong job? A big man, Donnie. The biggest. The biggest man there ever was. You want to be a big man, don’t you, Donnie?*
eulalia
September 30, 2017, 8:15am
1867
SteveG1:
And at the same time Resident Chump keeps talking about some yuge sums of money PR owes to Wall Street.
I see vultures circling very soon if not already…
“disaster capitalists” buying land for pennies on the dollar, from people already teetering on the edge,
etc etc etc etc.
There were already efforts to force privatization of their electrical grid before the hurricanes.
Trump finally allowed a temporary waiver of the Jones Act, but for only ten days! Prioritizing the protection of American shipping company profits over American citizen’s lives is just disgusting.
I’m getting pissed off that Trump is having a major tantrum on Twitter about Puerto Rico and the criticism directed at him and the Administration. He’s making it all about him
I’m furious. :mad:
And not in the least surprised.
In respect for the teaching of the Major Dudes, I earnestly try not to hate anyone. But fuck this shit!
He criticized the Mayor of San Juan for listening to some unnamed Democrats who told her to “get Trump”.
Sherrerd
September 30, 2017, 9:07pm
1872
SteveG1:
And at the same time Resident Chump keeps talking about some yuge sums of money PR owes to Wall Street.
I see vultures circling very soon if not already…
“disaster capitalists” buying land for pennies on the dollar, from people already teetering on the edge,
This is my guess, as well.
The now-infamous delay in distributing the food, water, fuel and medicine that are already there could be attributed to Trump Administration incompetence, combined with the natural-to-the-right determination to keep anyone “unworthy” from getting ‘something they’re not entitled to.’
But they could also be attributed to an actual plan* involving letting Puerto Rico become demonstrably unstable. Then you have to declare martial law and start rounding up survivors and putting them into camps. Most who survive the camps will elect to go live on the mainland. Then you can, as you mention, buy up the land for pennies, etc.
*No, I don’t think that Trump himself came up with anything resembling a multi-step plan. He probably just said ‘how can we profit from this situation?’ and the usual suspects chimed in with ideas. (That’s what the Heritage Foundation is for!)
jsc1953
September 30, 2017, 9:40pm
1873
My take: nothing is happening in Puerto Rico that is significantly different then what happened in Key West or Houston, complicated by the logistics of dedling with an island. But the Homeland security Secretary‘s “good news” statement really pissed off the mayor of San Juan (rightly so) and that’s attributable to the Trump administration‘s obsession with the appearance of competence, and denial of the possibility of bad news.
jsc1953:
My take: nothing is happening in Puerto Rico that is significantly different then what happened in Key West or Houston , complicated by the logistics of dedling with an island. But the Homeland security Secretary‘s “good news” statement really pissed off the mayor of San Juan (rightly so) and that’s attributable to the Trump administration‘s obsession with the appearance of competence, and denial of the possibility of bad news.
Don’t forget his concern for the shipping inductry’s profits over getting supplies to PR and his long delay in lifting the Jones Act.
And his need to golf.
Sherrerd
September 30, 2017, 9:51pm
1875
jsc1953:
My take: nothing is happening in Puerto Rico that is significantly different then what happened in Key West or Houston, complicated by the logistics of dedling with an island. But the Homeland security Secretary‘s “good news” statement really pissed off the mayor of San Juan (rightly so) and that’s attributable to the Trump administration‘s obsession with the appearance of competence, and denial of the possibility of bad news.
“The federal response has been a disaster,” said lawmaker Jose Enrique Melendez, a member of Gov. Ricardo Rossello’s New Progressive Party. “It’s been really slow.”
He said the Trump administration had focused more on making a good impression on members of the media gathered at San Juan’s convention center than bringing aid to rural Puerto Rico.
“There are people literally just modeling their uniforms,” Melendez said. “People are suffering outside.”
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/2017/09/puerto_ricans_say_us_relief_efforts_failing_them
… Mayors are being forced to come to the capital’s convention center, where the government has set up a command center, to ask for help in person.
…In his town, 2,600 people were left homeless. For them, the word “devastation” has become a cliché.
…SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico—While President Trump tweets about “poor leadership” in Puerto Rico, mayors and a top physician tell The Daily Beast the island faces deadly outbreaks of cholera and hepatitis unless the federal government surges help.
Outbreaks Begin in Puerto Rico While Trump Tweets ‘Amazing Job’
Heck of a job, Trumpy.
But he had no problem with lifting the Jones Act for Irma and Harvey victims.
Ukulele_Ike:
Trump owns ships…?
I don’t know if he does but he claimed he didn’t lift the Jones Actbecause the shipping industry complained it would hurt their profits.
President Trump says he’s reluctant to lift shipping restrictions to get more aid to hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico — because mariners don’t want him to.
“We’re thinking about that,” Trump said Wednesday when asked about lifting the Jones Act, which prohibits foreign ships from moving goods between US ports.
“But we have a lot of shippers and a lot of people that work in the shipping industry that don’t want the Jones Act lifted, and we have a lot of ships out there right now.”
“[The waiver] would take American first responders out of the loop and replace them with Filipino or Russian or Chinese crews,” Michael Roberts, a senior vice president at Florida’s Crowley Maritime Inc., told the Wall Street Journal.
“Doing that at a time when many US mariners in this region have had their homes damaged, their lives uprooted and now they need to work, to take that away is not something you want to do.”
jsc1953:
My take: nothing is happening in Puerto Rico that is significantly different then what happened in Key West or Houston, complicated by the logistics of dedling with an island. But the Homeland security Secretary‘s “good news” statement really pissed off the mayor of San Juan (rightly so) and that’s attributable to the Trump administration‘s obsession with the appearance of competence, and denial of the possibility of bad news.
When a different, smarter, more capable President was in office, a major disaster was handled differently : Emphasis added
After an earthquake shattered Haiti’s capital on Jan. 12, 2010, the U.S. military mobilized as if it were going to war.
Before dawn the next morning, an Army unit was airborne, on its way to seize control of the main airport in Port-au-Prince. Within two days, the Pentagon had 8,000 American troops en route. Within two weeks, 33 U.S. military ships and 22,000 troops had arrived. More than 300 military helicopters buzzed overhead, delivering millions of pounds of food and water.
No two disasters are alike. Each delivers customized violence that cannot be fully anticipated. But as criticism of the federal government’s initial response to the crisis in Puerto Rico continued to mount Thursday, the mission to Haiti — an island nation several hundred miles from the U.S. mainland — stands as an example of how quickly relief efforts can be mobilized.
By contrast, eight days after Hurricane Maria ripped across neighboring Puerto Rico, just 4,400 service members were participating in federal operations to assist the devastated island, an Army general told reporters Thursday. In addition, about 1,000 Coast Guard members were aiding the efforts. About 40 U.S. military helicopters were helping to deliver food and water to the 3.4 million residents of the U.S. territory, along with 10 Coast Guard helicopters.
Leaders of the humanitarian mission in Haiti said in interviews that they were dismayed by the relative lack of urgency and military muscle in the initial federal response to Puerto Rico’s catastrophe.
“I think it’s a fair ask why we’re not seeing a similar command and response,” said retired Lt. Gen. P.K. “Ken” Keen, the three-star general who commanded the U.S. military effort in Haiti, where 200,000 people died by some estimates. “The morning after, the president said we were going to respond in Port-au-Prince . . . robustly and immediately, and that gave the whole government clarity of purpose.”
The subtext of my remark is that the Short Fingered Vulgarian would only care about shipping profits if they profited him directly.
It’s possible, though, he knows a shipping magnate whose daughter he’d like to fuck.
