That would be because she is perceived as a RINO by them, not because she’s a woman or a minority. Those same people swooned over Sarah Palin. They love Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Green.
Well then, Kamala Harris or another woman or minority loses the bigot vote on the Democrat side as well. I mean, so long as we aren’t assuming that the Republicans are more full of bigots than the Democrats. Because given all the campus pro-Hamas nonsense, that’s going to be a hard case to make.
So then, the only reason that women and minorities are underrepresented among elected Republicans is because they are RINOs. Gotcha.
I agree – MAGAts are equal opportunity idiot lovers. See also: Herschel Walker.
I, for one, do assume that. You don’t hear too many Dems saying “Jews will not replace us.”
I never said that. I said that women and minorities are underrepresented because the Republican party doesn’t make special effort to recruit them and promote them like the Democrats do. Also, there are fewer women and minorities in the Republican party.
But Republicans love it when a steong woman or minority with the right values shows up. They loved Margaret Thatcher. They loved Sarah Palin for a while. They loved Condi Rice. When Nikki Haley was at the U.N., her speeches were widely shared among Republicans. Thomas Sowell, a black economist, is one of the most popular intellectual Republicans. I have to hear a single Republican comment on Nikki Haley or Vivek’s race.
Sure there are bigots in the Republican party. That’s because there are bigots everywhere. If you think they don’t exist in the Democratic party you’ve never heard a bunch of blue collar union guys yakking it up in a bar. Or apparently, heard a Harvard President speak.
No, they’re too busy waving Hamas flags and chanting “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”
Jews on campuses are not hiding from right-wing mobs. The mobs in front of Jewish restaurants are not MAGA mobs.
It wasn’t Republican college presidents who could not convince themselves to condemn the genocide of Jews.
I agree with this.
But I don’t agree that enthusiasm especially leads to victory. Biden didn’t generate a lot of enthusiasm. Going back further, they might have liked Ike, but they didn’t love him.
If SCOTUS boots Trump off ballots, there will be low GOP enthusiasm for Haley because of perception she isn’t far right. But she would have a decent chance of the nomination because of the perception of electability AND because of the own-the-libs female/minority factor.
Yes, but they are more prevalent on the right than the left. Here is a poll analysis from 10 years ago, before the rise of the alt right in politics. It judges how Democrat and Republican voters had views of Black people and leaders.
It’s not a huge divide, admittedly, but it’s there, and that shows it isn’t new.
But it has become much worse of late.
The alt right, in case you aren’t aware, is an ideology that embraces white nationalism and misogyny. There is no equivalent on the left. This is not a both sides issue.
I am not saying everyone on the right is bigoted against women and minorities. But it is represented much more on that side. Yes, there are bigots on the left as well, but not as many. That’s why it’s a bigger issue for someone trying to get a Republican nomination than one trying to get a Democratic one.
I suspect she is getting numbers not as Nikki Haley but as not-DeSantis.
Isn’t it kind of sexist to assume that if a woman is doing well, it has to be a vote against some man? Why is it so hard to believe that Haley has gotten where she is the same way any man has? She has a sterling record of accomplishment.
So here is what the polls look like, in order of when the primaries happen:
Iowa: DeSantis: 19.1%, Haley15.9%
New Hampshire: Haley, 25.8%, DeSantis: 7.6%
South Carolina: Haley: 21.8%, DeSantis: 13.5%
Nevada: DeSantis, 15%. No data on Haley.
Michigan: DeSantis: 13.4%, Haley: 12.5% Within margin of error.
So while DeSantis is leading in national polls, the primary season is breaking for Haley due to the strong DeSantis states coming later in the process. If DeSantis underperforms in Iowa and Haley beats him, she’s going to walk over him in the next two primaries, and by then it might be all over.
In any case, Trump still wins. This is all assuming something happens to keep him from running.
Undoubtedly it would be Haley or someone who is not yet running. She already has Koch money behind her. DeSantis is all but done at this point., rapidly dropping in the polls and proving he is dull dull dull.
We’re talking about DeSantis here, not sure if that actually counts… He’s barely a human being.
But do they elect them?
Look at this chart-
Women make up a much larger share of congressional Democrats (41%) than Republicans (16%). Across both chambers, there are 109 Democratic women and 44 Republican women in the new Congress. Women account for 43% of House Democrats and 31% of Senate Democrats, compared with 16% of House Republicans and 18% of Senate Republican
Well, I wouldn’t expect an even split, as Republican women may be less likely to be interested in politics than are Democratic women. We’d have to look at how many run for office and the percentage of them that get elected.
Do you have any facts to support the second half of this “fact”? Or is it just a gut feeling?
Why do you think this is?
First thing to note — if Sam is correct here, and regardless of why it is — then it explains why the percent of women in the GOP House of Representatives caucus is so much lower than in the Democratic caucus, and without supposing that Republicans are unwilling to vote for conservative women.
Second, I think Sam is correct about this.
Third, I don’t know for sure why GOP women would be less interested in politics. But I have a hypothesis. Republican women have a higher fertility rate. And their husbands expect them to do the bulk of the child-rearing. Maybe the last sentence is also true of Democratic mothers, but with more children for longer periods, the GOP women may not have time for politics. Another hypothesis is that when GOP women find free time, they prefer church activities.
Only relevance to the thread is that GOP voters would be fine with Haley should Trump be forced out, and she convinces them she is a real winger.
Ah, yes: Kinder, Kuche, Kirche.
Moderating:
Let’s drop the thread hijack about the number of female congress persons there are and why. This thread is about who emerges as the frontrunner if Trump is declared ineligible to run. Thanks.
At this point is when the pubbies in office in select states start declaring that the federal Supreme Court had no jurisdiction because those pubbies don’t like the decision elections are a state issue, even for federal office. Then they’ll promptly ignore the decision. It’s like their version of the SNIP (Smile, Nod, Ignore, Procede as usual), but in their case it means Scoff, Negate, Impede, Procede as usual.
If it is a 5-4 decision, I agree. But Roberts will work hard to make sure that doesn’t happens. And if a majority of the Republicans on SCOTUS endorse the Colorado Supreme Court, that tells me the mood among Republican elites has already shifted against Trump.
Another factor is that if even a single purple state does what Colorado did (could be Michigan) GOP loyalists will see Trump as dragging down their ticket. That will concentrate their minds.
The Supremes already ruled against that earlier this year.