I don't understand the intensity of the hatred for Trump

The fucker tried to steal my vote.

If past experience is any guide, we’ll never know.

He aggressively attacked the federal bureaucracy itself. I’ve been a fed for 35+ years, and am convinced the fed govt provides great benefits to citizens.

He restricted information that was collected and disseminated by the feds.

He operated the government for personal gain.

He legitimized personal insults, considered ignorance a virtue, and spewed hatred and discrimination, acting in ways unlike any prior president I experienced. As others have said, he cultivated and legitimized poor behavior by our nation’s worst elements, lowering the already unimpressive level of public discourse.

He is clearly incompetent and unqualified for the job.

He gave free reign to far right ideologues to completely skew the federal judiciary.

I wonder if the OP will ever come back and observe as to whether any of these reasons warrant the hatred. I wonder more about the flip side - what on EARTH could explain the indicted Trump being the Repub frontrunner for 24?

Because everything said in this thread is actually a positive to his supporters

Don’t want to go too far afield with this one, but …

  • I am daily heartened that TFG lost the popular vote by ~7,000,000 people, but
  • I am acutely aware that no amount of decency and kindness can always prevent, offset, or repair the damage that a relatively small number of assholes can do.

DAMHIKT.

The impact that The Deplorables can have, and the damage that they can do, and have done, is nigh unto incalculable. For some consequential things, as a practical matter, there is only prevention.

What I like to say to election-deniers is that, even if Trump was right about the election being “stolen” (obviously he wasn’t, but bear with me), he couldn’t possibly have known on election night. At best, he had suspicions. And yet he went on TV and announced that he won the election – totally throwing the whole country into turmoil to protect his precious ego.

Let alone the reality, that he was pushing that crap after virtually everyone around him, countless election officials and later judges told him it wasn’t stolen. And even after Jan 6th, continued to double down on it.

His red caps should say Fuck America.

Agreed.
I reckon Trump’s done at least 10 things worse than Watergate (ok, conservatively: 5). It’s a scale of scandal no-one was prepared for, and I doubt anyone could have missed.
Even his supporters see it; they just believe that Trump is hurting the right people.

Not to defend Trump or anything, but that was totally Mitch McConnell’s doing. He refused to confirm every judicial nominee during Obama’s administration, so then there were all these judgeships just waiting to be filled when a Republican got elected president. It would have happened no matter which (R) got elected.

Besides what has been written so far here I’ll toss in something that I don’t think has been mentioned yet: his response to Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria in 2017. And, many times during his presidency his behavior was what we in the military call “conduct unbecoming” — unbecoming of the office of President, unbecoming of the leader of the strongest country of the free world, unbecoming of the most powerful person in the world.

He chose denigrating behavior towards other leaders and countries that could benefit from our help, and instead of rendering aid and assistance he acted like a junior high school punk bully with thin skin and resorted to name calling and bullying and delaying aid. After Hurricane Maria devastated Puerto Rico he did not enable the rapid release of aid and funding to the country and then he also started calling their leaders names. I had to look it up to remind me but the mayor of San Juan, Carmen Yulín Cruz… he spent his efforts calling her a poor leader and other names instead of helping the people whose homes and families were destroyed.

So many times during his administration he had the opportunity to “rise above”, but instead he chose to make fun of others, call them names, not help, not be graceful…

So yeah, conduct unbecoming.

He’s the living embodiment of all of the Seven Deadly Sins.

He gives a bad name to even the good ones. His version of lust, for example, ruins a perfectly good emotion.

I would not have thought of that, but yeah, you’re right:

  • Lust :white_check_mark:
  • Greed :white_check_mark:
  • Sloth :white_check_mark:
  • Wrath :white_check_mark:
  • Pride :white_check_mark:
  • Envy :white_check_mark:
  • Gluttony :white_check_mark:

The American Antichrist.

If the user name fits…

Stranger

I still found the thread cathartic

Lemme’ just add one more:

Trump is:

  • A poor man’s idea of a wealthy man
  • An unintelligent man’s idea of a smart man
  • A weak man’s idea of a strong man
  • A coward’s idea of a brave man
  • An insecure man’s idea of a confident man

He is, in short, a shallow narcissist and an inveterate con man – no more, no less.

I’m watching his post-arraignment speech from Mar-A-Lago and it’s physically sickening me. TFG may or may not be an idiot, but he definitely thinks his supporters are.

Also see: cynicism

I’ve been watching this as well and, though I haven’t done any fact checking, what he is saying just sounds like a pile of hyperbolic lying and rabble-rousing. It’s appalling to listen to.

And Dodgy_Dude, I respectfully ask what your further thoughts are based on what’s been said so far.

Long before he was president, and my father (himself a hotel manager) voted for him, dad laughed at the absurd revenue numbers that Trump had to hit to make the Taj Mahal profitable. He was always a shit businessman.

And, a few years before Donald actually became president, I was having lunch with a group of airplane mechanics. They - the blue collar type of guys who might have come to support his election- were name dropping celebrities. When Donnie’s name came up, they explained that he’d return invoices with redlines and threats of lawsuits. He was always a grifter.

The man has never had any redeeming qualities.

He sold steaks through The Sharper Image, ran a beauty pageant so he could ogle the participants backstage, and ran multiple waterfront casinos into bankruptcy. What more could you ask of a Real American Hero?

Stranger

This is one of those threads that someone starts and then never visits again.

yep. The qualities of someone who could make that particular O.P. and then disappear are . . . probably self-evident.