Y’all can stop beating that “Just don’t respond to him!” drum.Read this from a mod.
Buck_Godot:
On the other hand, the thing to remember about Ditka, is that he isn’t unique, or actually particularly unusual. He represents the 30% or so of the population who are hard core Trump supporters and will frantically twist logic into pretzels to avoid the obvious fact that the guy they backed is a corrupt, incompetent, loon. As faulty as it is, the claims Ditka makes is the best defense the right has to offer, and is accepted blindly by millions of Americans. We can go ahead and ignore him and pretend that those voters don’t exist, at some point we are going to have to deal with them, and having someone around we can use as a case study, documenting its response to various stimuli may be able to help us confront it out in the real world.
Race for the cure my friends!
This is pretty much how I see things too. I would much rather see the right wing talking points here than to have to watch Fox.
Buck_Godot:
On the other hand, the thing to remember about Ditka, is that he isn’t unique, or actually particularly unusual. He represents the 30% or so of the population who are hard core Trump supporters and will frantically twist logic into pretzels to avoid the obvious fact that the guy they backed is a corrupt, incompetent, loon. As faulty as it is, the claims Ditka makes is the best defense the right has to offer, and is accepted blindly by millions of Americans. We can go ahead and ignore him and pretend that those voters don’t exist, at some point we are going to have to deal with them , and having someone around we can use as a case study, documenting its response to various stimuli may be able to help us confront it out in the real world.
Race for the cure my friends!
My bold.
Ignoring him on this message board is NOT the equivalent of “pretending those voters don’t exist.” And “having to deal with them” does not mean endlessly addressing his repetitive non-points and asking him questions that he ignores. This is a discussion board and it’s not a microcosm of the world at large, nor meant to be proportionately representative of the world at large. Many, if not most, of us are already “dealing” with those people in our actual lives in the actual world at large.
octopus
November 15, 2019, 7:17pm
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It’s obvious that refers to non Pit threads. Not trying to be mean, but were you dropped on your head?
You guys who are actively working to bait posters aren’t very bright discussing your bait tactics in the Pit and other public accessible forums.
The subject of this thread is a master baiter and should knock that shit off before he has to change his name to Harry Palms .
octopus
November 15, 2019, 7:28pm
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QuickSilver:
Silence. Imbecile.
See, Czarcasm, that’s how it’s done. Quiksilver is using the right forum to post his ugly message.
steatopygia:
Nope, I do.
How dare you hijack this thread from talking about my incredible successes!
TroutMan
November 15, 2019, 11:44pm
1630
I didn’t want to derail the ATMB thread, but this was too good not to mention. And since that thread is really about HD, this is as good a place as any:
Savage Level 100. Well done, iiandyiiii.
octopus
November 16, 2019, 12:07am
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TroutMan:
I didn’t want to derail the ATMB thread, but this was too good not to mention. And since that thread is really about HD, this is as good a place as any:
Savage Level 100. Well done, iiandyiiii.
It’d be savage in its obvious implication if the administrator wasn’t a woman.
No implication meant – I’m really interested in hearing from the women mods/admins. I hope they contribute.
octopus
November 16, 2019, 12:10am
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No implication? When you wrote that how many female moderators were active? Zero iirc. So why ask for something you know doesn’t exist?
I thought we had at least a couple (ITD and Ellen Cherry ). Did they retire?
There was a bit in a Rachel Maddow monologue that reminded me of HD . Just replace when she says “the president” with “HD ”, and “news” with “thread”.
And that, of course, is sort of the president’s M.O., right? This is one of his favorite ways to derail the news when things are not going his way. He just grabs the nearest third rail and says something so outrageous - deliberately outrageous - that people in good faith and in good conscience can’t ignore it. And people stop talking about whatever was going on in the news that he was trying to distract from and then instead they turn to the president’s latest outrageous statement and talk about that.
Yes…ITD says so in her member title, and Ellen hasn’t even posted in about a year.
Skypist
November 16, 2019, 11:00pm
1639
ThelmaLou:
What is the matter with you people who continue to let HD hijack threads??? WHY do y’all engage with him?? Why do you let him dominate discussions when he brings NOTHING to the table??
HE will not answer a straight question, but I wish one of you would.
It is beyond pointless. When I’ve been out all day, I’ll click into one of the political threads and see page after page after page of useless BLATHER where people address “points” that HD has made in (I assume) the vain hope that he will see the light or even reply with something other than CRAP.
There are others of his ilk that y’all allow (you know who you are! :mad:) to take over threads. It’s like allowing a heckler from the audience to dominate the routine FOR NO PURPOSE that I can fathom. It’s not entertaining (except to the heckler), and it certainly isn’t informative.
So will one of HD’s sparring partners please explain it to me?
To say you can’t resist isn’t an acceptable reply, as this board has a function that you can employ to avoid seeing his (to you) provocative posts. (Yeah, if someone quotes him, you will see it.)
I don’t believe he and the other disruptors care one bit about the CONTENT of the discussion. They get a buzz from the attention. That’s it. If they did care about the content, then they would advance the discussion with their comments. But. They. Don’t. They just keep the ball in play with suckers who don’t have the willpower or self-awareness to IGNORE THEM.
ITA. It creates page after page full of posts that are basically, “Nope, I’m right,” from the Dem/liberal poster and “Nope, I’m right,” from HD , maybe a little wordier than that but really amounts to “nope” “yep” “nope” “yep” over and over again.
I’m so tired of it. I do WISH that after several pages of that back and forth, all parties involved could just agree to disagree. At that point no one’s mind is going to be changed.
Buck_Godot:
On the other hand, the thing to remember about Ditka, is that he isn’t unique, or actually particularly unusual. He represents the 30% or so of the population who are hard core Trump supporters and will frantically twist logic into pretzels to avoid the obvious fact that the guy they backed is a corrupt, incompetent, loon. As faulty as it is, the claims Ditka makes is the best defense the right has to offer, and is accepted blindly by millions of Americans. We can go ahead and ignore him and pretend that those voters don’t exist, at some point we are going to have to deal with them, and having someone around we can use as a case study, documenting its response to various stimuli may be able to help us confront it out in the real world.
Race for the cure my friends!
I don’t think it works like that. The 30 to 40% aren’t going to change their minds and they regard you as a “liberal elite” who is telling them they’re wrong and hurting their fee-fees and trying to take away their freedom to enjoy the plutocrats’ feet firmly planted on their necks. There may be some whose minds can be changed, but HD seems pretty staunch in his beliefs.
Well then, I guess there’s no point in my reading here anymore if it’s just meant to be full of pages of “yep” “nope” “yep” “nope.”
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to hope that people who are arguing with each other but are never going to change their minds could agree to disagree after a while.
Czarcasm
November 16, 2019, 11:58pm
1640
Of course you can still tell people to ignore him(and other trolls) here in The BBQ Pit…and what I am saying is that if this is the only place you can do it, then doing it is fucking useless.
