A fact all ready well established.
Mexico president to seek charges after being groped on street
“My view is, if I don’t file a complaint, what will happen to other Mexican women? If they do this to the president, what will happen to all women in our country?” Sheinbaum said at a news conference on Wednesday.
“I decided to press charges because this is something that I experienced as a woman, but that we as women experience in our country,” she said. “I have experienced it before, when I wasn’t president, when I was a student.”
She added that she had decided to press ahead with bringing charges against the suspect as he had allegedly harassed other women in the crowd.
“A line must be drawn,” she said.
Good. Also, no surprise that he attacked other women.
I’m often in small town rural gas stations. I don’t see it happening here either.
That is, I’m sure there’s some harassment; but it isn’t catcalling people on the street. The only place I’ve ever had that happen was a small city.
It appears to be common in some areas — I’ve heard and seen enough reports to be sure that it is. But I don’t think it’s a matter of urban versus rural.
Another strange thing today. The Lil’wrekker was in a store that has those cart-lets. You know, small short carts.
A thing guys do is block your path in an aisle. So you go one way they dance over and repeat. Til you scream, pepper spray or run..
She says it was a brief thing. Coulda been accidental but she looked over her shoulder and his guy friend high fived him.
Innocent looking? Of course. Nothing to see here. Not a thing.
The rudest talk I ever heard in the locker room in the ‘90s was the chubby kid who insisted on singing “I’M JUST A LOVE MACHINE” at the top of his lungs.
I’ve been blocked more by women than men. But women don’t dance, they just act like they don’t see you.
I’ve literally never heard or seen either. Sure, there are clueless people who are so lost in thought at the sheer variety of canned beans that they don’t see you pull up near them. I’ve been one of those people too.
Conscious studious avoidance? Nope. Deliberate harassment? Never.
I suspect that men tend to self-segregate. Maybe you don’t hear that sort of talk in the sorts of locker rooms frequented by Dopers, but I’ll bet that in whatever locker room this creep frequents, you do.
I was trying to research the charges this old perv might receive. I don’t personally know anything about assault charges or Mexican law offhand.
The only thing I’ve ever read about this type of crime is that it’s usually taken to a lesser charge of some type of assault. I’ve always personally thought that bites the big one.
This. Although I’d say “people” and not “men” since it applies to issues like racism and so on that apply to both genders. Bigots who aren’t in a position to force their values on everyone else tend to form their own separate subculture that has limited contact with the non-bigots.
And their presumption is that the rest of us actually would be on the same page as THEM but are just too intimidated or woke-mind-virused to keep it real.
But meanwhile and circling back to the OP subject, I agree that as mentioned his chances of getting away with it easy this time don’t look good at all. Like it or not, it is a reality that all are equal but some are more equal than others.
Too bad she couldn’t turn around and slug him hard in the face, or knee him in the crotch, drawing blood would be great,
You and @Saint_Cad are not the target.
Sorry, you don’t get to experience daily tiny harassment and little jabs that woman experience.
Ya’ll never noticed woman travel in pairs if not packs? Now you know why.
A woman once had herself filmed walking the streets of a town alone for a number of hours. The film caught plenty of incidents of sexual harassment.
And as I recall, when that film was discussed here on the Dope, a good number of posters dismissed the film as being faked because harassment like that doesn’t happen that often. Because they almost never see it happening like that.
That’s the reaction here in this thread again.
I can tell you from personal experience that yes, that sort of harassment happens. Absolutely it does, and absolutely as often.
It’s like the Me Too Movement never happened as far as awareness of sexual harassment is concerned.
I think there are two different topics getting conflated a bit; “locker room talk” and harassment.
I too don’t hear guys talking about sex and denigrating women, and haven’t since maybe junior high school. I don’t think it happens often. Maybe amomg certain disgusting guys it happens but I can’t imagine it’s the norm.
I do think sexual harassment isn’t rare, I’ve seen it before often enough and called people out on it. Usually it’s not anything blatant but the little things have to add up if they are frequent and it seriously sucks.
It’s the little lip smacks, pushing in too close, leering(subjective, I know)following or blatantly recording.
I certainly wouldn’t deprive them of their right to use their phone as they wish..but, guys really think about it. If you cause fear to one girl or woman it’s not the right thing to do.
I don’t walk around in fear. But I am always aware of my surroundings and I’ve tried to teach my girls that.
We are not a particularly good looking bunch but there’s lots of leg and lots of long blond hair. We’ve found it’s a magnet for trouble anywhere you have to navigate thru a group of men. Or one lone creeper.
It’s bad out there.
There’s probably also a lot of behavior that would be very difficult for anyone but the victim to notice. Bystanders might just see a man walking past a woman on the sidewalk, without ever seeing the grope as they pass.
And I, a woman no less, am one of those people who thought that most, if not all, of it was staged. IIRC, it was in one of the boroughs of New York City.
Speaking of males and weird happenings in locker rooms, does anyone here know what ever happened to Shagnasty?
I would suggest that the term may be referring to that type of locker room, of young, immature, and inappropriate people, or also to sports teams or groups that are very comfortable with one another and feel free to say or do offensive things. It probably wasn’t coined based on your local Gym catering to middle aged men who are all strangers.
Most women can recall an event in their young teens (or, sadly, earlier) where they were harassed or worse. The perpetrators may have been their peers, and the behavior dismissed as “boys-will-be-boys” and “locker room talk”.
It’s where it begins, not where it occurs throughout a man’s life.
This is a hypothesis, I don’t actually know, but my personal lives experience certainly aligns with that sort of timeline and behaviours.
Many of the men engaging in “locker room talk” never matured past the middle school level.