I Miss Game of Thrones

But I miss Sean Bean even more. It won’t stop me watching it and I’ll be watching again in March, but Bean seems to lend a “believability” to anything he appears in, IMO.

I think there’s a half-hearted attempt at making it a MMOPPRG (that’s probably the wrong letters), but I didn’t read any good reviews.

I’ve already seen the reruns, so I’m up to speed. I don’t want to read the novel, because i’m afraid it will spoil what I’m seeing. Anyone else feel this way?

Thanks

Q

I missed it for a little while, but then the new seasons of Breaking Bad and Walking Dead came back and distracted me.

I get what you mean about Sean Bean. He should be in everything. :slight_smile:

I got me some game of thrones for christmas, but it just made me miss it more.

Bean fans, “Collector’s Choice Video” had (the last time I checked) DVD’s of “Sharpe’s Regiment” for sale.

Q

I miss Peter Dinklage more. His Tyrion Lannister is one of the best characters on TV. Charles Dance and the girl who played Arya are also up there. Plus whoever plays the busty prostitute.
Sean Bean is kind of a disappointment, the man is a walking spoiler.

I feel the same way about the Millennium series (The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc).

If anything you might consider reading the books already covered by the show. There’s stuff they had to leave out for the show and reading the books will be like watching missed episodes. Just think: With Sean Bean in your mind as Eddard, every time you read a section with Eddard in it, you’ll be getting more Sean Bean. :wink:

You can safely read A Game of Thrones, because that book was covered in Season 1 of the series. And I think that Season 2 pretty much parallels A Clash of Kings, so that gives you almost 2000 pages you can safely read without giving anything away :slight_smile:

I too vote for Sean Bean to be in everything. Including my bedroom.

What? :o

I just finished book 1 and Season 2. I have a theory that Jon Snow is the son of Robert Baratheon and Ned’s sister. I had previously seen the theory that he is Raegar’s son but Jon is clearly not a dragon since the fire burned him when he threw the lantern.

Hopefully no one will consider this a spoiler since Season 2 is well over with and I really have no clue as the the outcome.

That’s not sufficient evidence. Heat and fire don’t affect Dany because the Targaryens intermarried – she’s all dragon, presumably.

If Lyanna Stark is Jon’s mother, he won’t be “pure” dragon, even if Raegar Targaryen is the father.

The other night I had dream that was a mashup of Game of Thrones and I Love Lucy. Instead of Ricardos & Mertzes being on a tour of Europe they were on a tour of the Free Cities of Essos.

And molten gold killed Viserys even though he was a pure-blooded Targaryen, so Jon getting burned doesn’t mean he isn’t Rhaegar’s son.

GRRM slips up, or back-tracks, in a later book and says that Jon’s hair is brown, which doesn’t speak well for GRRM’s thoughts about him being Robert’s son.

The thing in the spoiler box concerns Jon Snow.

He’s the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. George hasn’t confirmed this, but 99.9% of the serious fandom agrees. I’m not going to go into the evidence, just google R+L+J, but it is overwhelming. There’s such a consensus that the “crazy crackpot theories” concerning Jon are that he’s anything other than the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.

Yup.

The reason he can’t be Robert and Lyanna’s son is because of timing. Robert would have had to impregnate her before she was “abducted” by Rhaegar. The time between her abduction and Ned finding her in the Tower of Joy is close to two years. Remember, Jon had to have been young enough to be conceived and born *after[i/] Ned leaves to go to war, since the story is he’s Ned’s bastard. If he was conceived by Robert before Lyanna was taken, then he would be too old to fool anyone that he was Ned’s kid.

Martin also said the 5th book everyone dies and the 6th book is a 1000 page description of snow blowing across the landscape or words to that effect.

So until Martin writes it into reality onlyhe knows the plan. And “serious fandom” have been wrong before.

as far as the timing it has been very vague in my estimation (based on reading one book). Ned had to be gone long enough to meet and impregnate Wytha or whatever her name was to make the cover story work. Possibly Robert and Lyanna hooked up and Raegar then snatched her away immediatly. The rest of the Tragareons have white blond hair at least in the ones we get to see. Of those two, one is immune to fire and the other was not, presumably both had the same parent. I just don’t think that if Jon is a Tragareon/ Dragon King he would be burned by fire. If he is the secret or bastard son of Robert a case could be made for him to assend the throne. All of Robert’s other offspring were killed, maybe Lyanna and Robert were secretly married, the Old Gods’ wedding cermony seems to be just speaking the words making him a legitimate heir to the throne.

I’m not sure about the spoiler box since some are talking in the open, but lets do it for the heck of it:

[spoiler]Lyanna didn’t like Robert, we get quote from Lyanna in the book to that effect (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark#Quotes_by_Lyanna). Unless Robert raped her, Jon’s not his kid.

Dany isn’t immune to fire (http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/945/ + Event Horizon: Flashpoint Transcript: George R. R. Martin).

Not all Targaryens have silver hair (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Baelor_Targaryen + http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bittersteel).

Yeah, Jon might not be the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. He might have just given her a blue rose that she loved and brought them to her at the tower of joy. Dany might randomly have a prophetic dream of a blue rose growing out of a WALL OF ICE. Ned might randomly never talk to anyone about Jon’s mother for reasons other than Robert would kill him if he found out. Rhaegar might actually be a kidnapper even though Robert is literally the only person that thinks a single bad thing about him, including other people that waged war against the Targaryens. Ned just randomly associates thoughts of his sister with thoughts of his bastard child all throughout GOT. R+L=J explains everything, and no other theory can explain any of this. Go ahead and don’t believe it, but you might as well believe that there’s a teapot circling Jupiter. [/spoiler]

ETA Oh, you only read one book? Read through A Storm of Swords and then get back to me. You’ve seen a ridiculously tiny fraction of the evidence (Who Are Jon Snow’s Parents?).

Anything during season three and going forward , are going to start diverging from the books.

Declan

In what way?

Season 1 was very faithful, season 2 made some changes, but the only thing I’ve heard about season 3 is a scene that, by all accounts, should basically be right out of the book.

^^Well, there’s the girl in Season 2 (Talisa?) that Robb marries. That character is NOT in the books, at least it is not obviously the same person. She seems pretty different than her book counterpart so far.

I just finished reading the five books. Have there been any rumblings about when book 6 might arrive?

Already in season two we see that the dragons actually get kidnapped, in the book that never actually happened. Arya by this time should have racked up a very impressive body count.

As well, season one Dany is portrayed by someone over the age of majority, while in the book, she would have just turned 14. The producers have said that to fit the tv format, some things would be modified, I trust that they are going to keep with the spirit of the books, but I am expecting diversions from the books.

Declan