I’ve always taken a children outlook. We as sinners are ‘children’ we will continue to make mistakes through our naive innocence and wicked selfishness, that salvation lies in the corrections of our childish mistakes.
I’m so terrible sorry it’s inconvenient for you that an atheist doesn’t keep a Bible in her desk at work to pull out for citations in Pit threads. That must be so frustrating.
:smack: Completely and utterly backwards.
It had nothing to do with “fair” and “unfair”–you were expecting a certain argument, so you skimmed right past the point that was made. Which is, since you apparently missed it…
**If **homosexuality is a sin, it is no worse than any other sin, such as, say, masturbation, seeing as Jesus never once called it out, when he did make mention of many other points he found important. However, for **cultural **reasons, it has picked up special emphasis, such that homosexuality can be cause to completely exclude a person from a religious community, in a way that Jesus almost certainly never intended, given his own track record of spending a hell of a lot of time hanging out with sinners. So, Jesus had dinner with tax collectors and prostitutes, and very few religious officials would refuse to marry you if you admitted you masturbate, but if you have sex with or even date a person of the same gender, there’s a good chance you’ll be forced out of the community or at least ostracized, and don’t even think about asking to get married to somebody you love so that you can follow God’s command to only have sex inside a committed, permanent relationship.
Shot From Guns As I said, I am uninterested in the hijack you are so desperately trying to cultivate. We can talk about the underlying theology or we can talk about gay marriage. If you mention gay marriage AT ALL, I will not respond.
We **are **talking about the underlying theology, and one of the main thrusts of this fuckign thread is same-sex marriage. Are you just **completely **not paying attention?
None of those is a physical Bible, which is my point. Have you ever tried to skim a large document on the internet? It doesn’t work.
Shot From Guns, first your cite was twenty ( ! ) years of Catholic school. Then you act like nobody should expect you to know your shit because you’re atheist and don’t have a bible.
I’ll give everybody a moment to cognitively dissociate those two claims.
plays a soothing public domain instrumental on twelve-string
Ready?
Now your claim is that the only way you can research is to have a physical book to skim. *Specifically *in reference to your getting the “Sabbath was made for man…” quote wrong.
Really? That’s the big problem? It’s not that you’re reflexively defending bullshit because you’re the one who spouted it? Really?
