You left out:
Can I think about it? – Sure! – <crickets> <tumbleweed> <leaves falling off calendar> – Have you thought about it? – Err… (shitwhydidn’thejusttakethehint)… I don’t go out with men from work.
And oh, yes, the self-confidence. Always the self-confidence. It’s like walking out to the first tee in front of everyone in the clubhouse and addressing the ball confidently, and putting to the back of your mind the knowledge that you shanked every single tee shot last time round.
Bullshit.
Ask out uglier girls. If someone was willing to go out with me, you guys shouldn’t be bitching.
ETA: I know, I know, apparently men and women don’t ask people out for the same reasons. I never had much luck with lesbians either, as I always attracted sort of crazy ones.
I’m pretty sure that was a joke.
The thing is, we can’t help that there’s idiotic girls such as these out there. Just as you can’t help there’s idiot guys out there, too. This girl should have said it straight away - “I don’t date guys from work.” (Saying “You’re just not attractive to me” may be honest but it is kind of rude.)
But I agree with Tel. If y’all didn’t ask out girls just because they were pretty, I think you’d have a better time of it.
On the other hand, I agree that the amount of games so many girls play are disgusting. And I confess to having played a few myself, before I realized what an obnoxious habit it was.
Unfortunately if you don’t try at all you get nowhere. And self-confidence does get my attention, at any rate.
In that case, I retract my snark. 
And yeah, looks are important, blah blah blah.
If you project fear of rejection, it’s probably a self-fullfilling prophecy. After a few stumbling years, “no” never bothered me that much. The less it bothered me the less I heard it.
Practice being OK with no. Ask bravely. Ask as if she says no, it will be her loss.
It’s the Babe Ruth approach. Take a lot of shots, Sure you’ll strike out a lot but the homers will be worth it.
Update – and proceeded to get really pissed off an obnoxious about it. :rolleyes:
Let me put it this way… For some of us, sliding down a 100 feet long Samurai sword buck nekkid while using our genetalia as brakes would be a less painful experience. So yes, it is that painful. If it weren’t, you ladies would be a doing a LOT more asking than you do.
And I pit women who subscribe to bullshit headgames (read “The Rules”) who say no just because they want to see if the guy will ask again or because they don’t want to seem “easy” or some such horseshit.
I’m fully with the OP. I pit dating to deepest, darkest, dankest pits of hell.
Me? Bitter? Nah…
Surprise, surprise, eh?
OK, I’m not disagreeing with your first paragraph, since I finding asking people out really difficult. But I still do it.
As for the second–don’t ask those women out again. You say you don’t like the games. Then don’t play their games. Once you ask someone out, if she says no, don’t ask her again. Let it be her loss if she wants to play stupid games, and let her find a game-playing man.
:: nods ::
Dating definitely sucks, and it gets worse as you get older.
I will stick with my principle - I only date women that I am having sex with. The rest of them we are just going out together to do something, it’s not a date.
I think you’re onto something here. Unless you’re truly a troll, there should be people of your similar attractiveness who would be happy to date you. And I’ve seen trolls with their troll-mates, so it all works out okay. There are 3 billion women in the world - surely someone will go out with a dude who is clean and doesn’t smell funny. More than one someone, even.
What about standing outside their window at night with a boom box?
If you don’t have a boom box, screaming “Stella” works too.
Only if it’s playing Peter Gabriel. Otherwise, it’s creepy.
It’s a tribute to the indomitable nature of the human spirit that I can continue to be surprised by the bullshit that guys come up with to make dating hellish.
Nonsense. There’s (almost) no correlation between physical attractiveness and starting threads espousing extreme views to get a rise out of people.
Well, she couldn’t very well say it out straight away, because it wasn’t true - within months she was dating a guy from the office. Of course, we may argue that she considered long and hard over whether she could break her usual rule for me, but I’d laugh in your face.
You’ve got a mighty lot of nerve deciding why anyone decides to ask anyone out. :rolleyes: