I’ve heard that the Scientologists are all down on psychiatry and psychotropic meds. But dermatological meds?!
Yes, this is wrong. You aren’t being nearly hard enough on him.
THAT’S better. Add this to the Battlefield Earth treatment, and it’s a good start.
Seriously, though, this situation would have me hitting my head against a brick wall. After a nice refreshing bashing session, I’d see if I could somehow get him restricted to supervised visits only. I’m all for fathers being involved in their kids’ lives, but that much crazy can be contagious.
BTW, I live across Tampa Bay from Clearwater, Florida, which is Scientology’s Rome. Sometimes you’ll see people walking around downtown CW wearing what appears to be some kind of blue Air Force or Navy uniform – it ain’t, they’re in Sea Org. (Hubbard was a Navy man.)
ETA: I must have woken up too early. I thought this was posted by the OP.
Throwing this out there with all the caveats in the world (Scientology is shit, a scam, and a complete waste of time, fuck Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Beck, L Ron Hubbard can dry clean my BVDs with his tongue, yada, yada) , but Scientology seems almost ancillary to this story.
It seems to me the guy is an “A” class twat no matter what events he is dragging his kids to. Whether it be Scientology, Catholic Mass, a Cthulhu revival seance, or BuffyCon, the guy is the problem, not so much his choice of “religions”. He should be having, at best, supervised visits no matter what activities were being planned.
Mom needs to step up her game and tighten this shit up, if he is that much of a threat (which it appears he is).
In the immortal words of Tina Turner, “What’s Scientology got to do with it?”
Yeah, I’d say George nailed it. Good phrasing, Georgey-Boy - that was what I was going to say, but worded better. Visits should definitely be supervised.
You’re obviously not familiar with how Scientology works then. If i were to go to an orthodox whatever church and ask them what they believe, they’ll tell you, maybe offer you a space at a service or give you a free holy book if your lucky. At a scientology “service” they wioll try to sell you “dianetics”. To join the fold you would be required to “audit” which is kind of like a confessional while attached to a lie detector but someone takes notes and saves them to be used against you should you try to leave until the point you are determined to be “clear” and move up to the next level and learn more about their belief system sometimes even changing or negating things learned on previous levels all at the cost of around 100 bucks per session. A “what is scientology?” book that they put out weighs in at 400+ pages and will set you back 20 bucks, and the “basics” for auditing and “church” dogma weigh in at around 19 books and over 2000 pages.
The Scientology is just the latest bit of craziness. The guy is telling his kids that their mom lied to the cops about him choking her out in the front yard in front of them. That is just one example of the bullshit he is spreading about. Mom has been trying to play nice for the kid’s sake, but now the gloves are coming off. The big thing is that we are waiting for his trial. The strategy is play as nice as we can until he gets to court, and then pull the gloves off. we have all his threats delivered via email and voicemail saved. This guy is just digging himself deeper and deeper. He lived most of his life in massivetwoshits, not here in Tejas. He thinks things are done the way they are in Boston. Yeah, he is in for a big shock with the Texas legal system.
there is nothing acceptable or misunderstood about a 6 foot 1 inch tall man choking a 4 foot 11 inch woman. Go ahead, judge him, the state of Texas is going to.
Another thing about Scientology is that you don’t get the REAL story (Xenu) behind their beliefs until you’ve been there for years and spent god knows how much money.
The equivalent would be if the Catholic church didn’t tell you about Jesus until you’ve been a Catholic for ten years and spent thousands of dollars. And shunned all your friends who aren’t Catholic. If I go into a Scientology center and ask about Xenu, they’ll try stalling, or tell me I’m nuts, or whatever.
If the kids want to see their dad - no matter how much of an asswipe he is - the mom is going to end up the bad guy in the kid’s eyes if she says no. In addition, if visitation is part of their divorce decree she has to let him see the kids. After the Texas court system has its way with him, she can apply to have the visitation agreement modified and have reason to back up her request.
Pikey Pete and Rajiya, please make sure this waste of oxygen does not find out where you live. Get the visitation agreement amended to cut him off. If this guy is crazy enough to be into Scientology after the violence he’s already shown, I would be very wary after his trial. He’s going to be angry, and it’s going to all be your fault.
What do you think of her poor judgment for not only choosing to a) marry, but b) have children with this man? Was she not the one who exposed her kids to this by choosing to have children with him?
What tipped her internal scale in favor of an unstable, uneducated, lazy, possibly mildly retarded and gullible man?
Stop being so mild and liberal in your condemnations. What the fuck was OP thinking having children around the house that are clearly suffering from foetal alcohol syndrome and have a complete lacking of personal worth? Clearly the anklebiting shits drove their poor faithful father over the edge and his bitch of a wife was asking for a beatdown. Equal rights, equal fights and all that.
She already commented on that herself, you judgemental piece of shit.
So it would be ok with you if the boyfriend/girlfriend of your SO decided they were going to make the decisions for what was best for your children rather than you?
I’d still love to know how mentally and emotionally healthy she is to have thought that marrying and having children with an unstable, uneducated, lazy, possibly mildly retarded and gullible man was the thing to do. Or does that sound like a healthy choice of a partner to you?
Well, at least their not making them watch Battlefield Earth.
Well, I will tell you… I was STUPID!!! I was under the impression when I met him that he was sterile (I saw medical records indicating this) and he presented himself very differently than the person I came to know. I had numerous things happen within my world and was not making the best choices. Sometimes in life we get caught up with someone’s potential and fail to realize that he/she may not ever live up to that potential. So given that I am very gifted at avoidance, I held two jobs, supported the family financially, attended to my children’s needs, and went to college while while taking 15-18 hours a semester. So, I was able to effectively ignore certain behaviors. It wasn’t until my schedule freed up a bit that I actually took the time to evaluate my life. So, as it stands I cannot change yesterday, I can only look at today and try to make the best decisions regarding my children. It is not black and white, as things rarely are. When one is emotionally involved in a situation it takes stepping back and looking at things objectively and sometimes it takes a while to get to that point.
I agree with the first part of your statement. The kids don’t need to be in this jerk’s presence, let alone left with him.
I can’t imagine what an unemployed person finds interesting about a “religion” that allows you to progress based on your financial ability to pay. Hopefully, they’ll realize what a nutcase the dude is and do something to straighten him out.
I’m glad you were able to gain enough insight to see what led you to getting into and then staying in that situation. Stupid is your word though, not mine. I don’t think you are stupid. Smart people also make the most awful life choices.
Often people who get in crazy messes go on to a new person and present everything as being the fault of the crazy ex, and then a few years later they are on to a new person with a new story of another crazy ex, over and over again. Their tales of woe and crazy exes are never ending. From your explanation, it doesn’t sound like you are one of these people, so I wish you the best in dealing with your situation.
Yes and no. Yes, the dude is a massive twatmuffin. Scientology is also an awful, awful institution. It’s like the difference between hanging out with your kids in someone’s living room smoking reefer all day vs. bringing crack or heroin addicts around your kids. Yeah both are bad, but one is worse.