I Pit NotOkay for convincing the entire board umkay had died!

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And there are also a number of people who enjoyed and appreciated the threads, but still had questions and concerns nonetheless, which the whole NotOkay incident served to galvanize, and would just like a little factual reassurance.

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So basically you want to know whether or not to be angry that you were delighted under false pretenses? I’m with RT. What kind of fucked-up trolling is that?

I have no idea and it’s annoying me too.

Yes, it would be easy for her to prove it. I see no reason why she should and she has said that she has no interest in doing so. No one is saying that providing proof would be difficult.

O/T but can you recommend any books?

Ok, so let me get this straight: You think the model of chair I have, as well as the fact that I can feel my legs, I don’t have to catheterize myself in order to urinate and that I like to exercise are mitigating factors in love? You think these are reasons for a girl to stay with me, when if they weren’t present she’d leave me? That is UTTER crazy talk. It just solidifies my opinion that you’ve never been in love.

TRUST me, I have my own set of extremely unpretty, embarrassing, ‘I wish this wasn’t my body’ issues. And they are fairly unique to my body (given the unusual circumstances of my SCI). I’m far from a “normal guy” who’s just ‘permanently seated’. You don’t KNOW my situation, so you can’t say how far or how close it is to your situation.

Snark or no, the new track record seems unlikely. She would have to post about something other than herself.

Huh? No, I’m sort of on the fence - no anger or delight involved, just had reasonable doubts.

Well, the asslicking was pretty funny.

Poor form to air PM’s in public like Bob Ducca said, but I would bet a weeks pay that Jamie simply thought he found someone he could be friends with and is not a devotee of any sort. Jamie really really loves himself. A lot. And isn’t Facebooking each other what most twenty somethings do? We have all seen loads of photos of Jamie as he isn’t camera shy. Of course you have every right to refuse to share your photo, but it was just Jamie being Jamie, not Jamie being a devotee.

They are established presences here. I’ve met one in person and worked with two extensively on articles for the teemings newsletter. Simply that - many of us know more about them vs others and entrust them here on the Dope…

Awww, thanks. I love you too sweetie. :slight_smile:

Yeah, that’s fair enough. Sorry. I don’t agree with the “how hard would it be,” but I understand where you’re coming from.

Well, you can be as skeptical as you like within the rules, this is true of everything posted here.

I don’t believe that gives you the right to hound someone, though. Which this is getting awfully close to being.

Some would like to forget.

I’ve suffered for my art, now it’s your turn.

Wow, really? Okay, sorry - certainly not my intent. She expresses frustration at the situation, so I suggested - suggested - a practical way to address it. I think umkay is legit; I am not trying to hound her.

EtA: nothing on a message board is worth hounding

We’re not talking about someone with years or even months of posting activity.

And not an obvious troll or they wouldn’t still have posting privileges. ’

People who post only on one subject exclusively and nothing else usually get counseled as it becomes obvious they’re from “one-trick pony” territory. But it’s not an automatic ban right off the bat.

No facts in evidence (yet) for your suspicions. If you have any please bring them to our attention, the staff always wants to know about such things.

As for Wally … geez, if I ever actually met that plagiarizing lying sack of shit in person I’d probably punch him right in the nose for being such a manipulative scumbag. He fooled a lot of people and caused much pain and distress for his own selfish ends. He’s the root cause of a lot of this agita today, people who were taken in and thoroughly fooled by Wally want to make sure that never happens again. That means that everybody else pays for Wally’s sins.

Yeah, I agree with you here. I think a whole lot more people (myself included) would be able/willing to have a relationship with a paraplegic than a quadriplegic.

Well it does seem a little extreme to have a perfect life except for one of the worst things that could happen to a person.

If you are real, I believe this. And I don’t think anyone thinks you’re a troll *because *of the over the top adulation. They’re two separate issues. People are acting crazy, AND your story strikes a lot of people as unlikely to be true.

No, it’s not *proof *that you are a troll, it just adds one more tick to the “trying to be everything to everyone” side. You wouldn’t outright refuse to talk about everything other than your life, if asked, but you seem to shy away from anything that is likely to alienate anyone and bring the topic right back to your inspirational life. Some people are like that, but you generally seem like the opinionated, curious, interested type. That type of person isn’t usually interested only in discussing their own life.

Not you personally, so much, but … geez, there’s been a lot of people posting all kinds of shit on the board and the greater majority of it goes unquestioned by anyone. Because of that I have to question when laser focus to brought to bear on one person and they’re beaten like a rented mule, which is what I think is happening here.

If they’re legit this will be borne out. If it’s all a shuck, that will come out too, eventually.

This ain’t no ivory tower bastion of truth anyway. Most people wouldn’t be able to post here if it was and to act as if it is, that’s silly.

It’s just … people. Writing posts and saying stuff.

I’ve said it before; I’ll say it again. Not only does she play the tuba, when she plays, she wins. :slight_smile:

I’m sorry, can you explain how this makes any sense at all? Seems to me that umkay’s two stories about being in love - falling in love with the guy, having a short relationship, and then having the guy cut it short because of the chair - seem totally plausible. But you’re saying because the guys freaked out over the chair, umkay wasn’t in love? I’d get your point if you were claiming they weren’t really in love with her, but this just don’t make no sense..

I know - don’t you hate that?! Pesky people.

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I hear you; some folks are crushing way too hard and other folks are breaking out the digital tar and feathers. Perspective is a wonderful thing.

Right, that was one of my reasons. Too much, too soon. That’s always a warning sign.

Well wait – my point was to answer your question, “Why are people asking for some sort of verification on THIS poster rather than any other “Ask the…” poster?” I wasn’t offering you evidence, I was explaining why THIS poster is different from all the other [del]nights[/del] ones. (Oh God. I was about to make an “on all other nights, we recline” crack, but realized that would be… not a good idea.)

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln… :wink: And thank you for giving a very good summation of why some people are so disinclined to trust, especially someone who becomes the focus of attention so fast and so furiously. We’ve been burned before. And as far as these just being words on a page… they’re words on a page on a forum allegedly devoted to dispelling ignorance. If someone is pulling a shtick off and bullshitting people, it does kinda matter. At least it does to me.

Not enough to hound her personally, but I really don’t think showing dubiousness at extraordinary claims and asking for her to share some info with an admin is hounding. If she starts getting vicious PMs (or a schoolbus of kids start poking her), then yeah, that’s hounding.

And try though I might billfishNumbersIcanNeverRemember, I don’t see anything pervy in what Ambivalid seems to have written to umkay or was worth her divulging personal material (especially considering, y’know… boundaries, dammit! She’s bustin’ the boundaries!*).

  • A hug to anyone who recognizes that without Googling.