What, exactly, about posting in one dedicated thread you started to call out other people, in the motherfucking Pit, constitutes “following around”, in you mind?
“Little Nemo? Tragic. I’ve never seen such a stunning example of somebody squandering whatever good will and political capital they once may have had. It’s a Homeric fall from grace that, I hope, we can all learn from.”
–Rudy Giuliani
[Well, not really, but he could credibly have said it.
Of course this was after you said nobody in this thread had claimed genocide was occurring and I posted a list of quotes of people doing that. And you said those don’t count.
But if it’s a list you want, here’s a list of posts I’ve made.
And here’s the conclusion you reached after all of these.
I’m starting to suspect you may not actually be reading what other people are posting here.
The answer is neither. I’m not trolling or delusional. I have a position I believe is really important and I’ll keep defending it.
I said before I have no plans on walking away. This is a really important cause.
My position on Palestine is that it’s an issue that mainly involves Palestinians and Israelis and I don’t see it as very central in American politics. And I’d rather keep the focus in this thread on American politics.
If you vote Democrat this November, you are voting for hysteria, lies, socialism and even the cheapening of the Holocaust.
Just a reminder. Republicans have been sneering at Dems and their purported allies as being hysterical for decades now. They do it because ‘hysterical’ is a dog whistle for both sexism and ableism. People who have been sneered at in this way are not going to react kindly to Democrats who use the dog whistle and then tell them to vote Democrat.
If the cause is “getting rid of Trump”, then why is your position on Palestine this?
Because you know that’s a lie, right?
It isn’t an issue that "mainly involves “Palestinians and Israelis.” You know President Trump is the Chairman for Life of the “Board of Peace” that is overseeing the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, right? That makes it an American political issue. The executive board includes Marco Rubio, Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, American billionaire Marc Rowan, American political advisor Robert Gabriel Jr.
Have you heard of Tawfiq Ajaq? He was an American teen, allegedly killed by Israeli forces (we still don’t know exactly by whom) in 2024. Sayfollah Musallet? Another American, beaten to death by settlers. The ambulance desperately trying to get him to hospital was blocked for 3 hours by Isreali forces. Shireen Abu Akleh? An American citizen shot in the head by the IDF. The IDF said “sorry.” And then did this at her funeral.
Khamis al-Ayyad of Chicago, killed in a settler attack. Amer Rabee, 14 year old American boy, killed in a hail of bullets. Jacob Flickinger, killed when the World Food Kitchen convoy he was part of got targeted by the IDF. Mohammad Khdour: a “mystery killing”. The IDF referred any questions to Shin Bet who declined to comment. Tawfiq Hafez Tawfiq Ajaq, 17, American citizen, shot first by settlers then by an Israeli military vehicle.
The deaths of multiple American citizens at the hands of IDF forces and settlers, with no real investigations and nobody held accountable, make it an American political issue.
Because America gives Israel billions of dollars every year. Much of that money is used to buy American weapons which are being used in the genocide in Gaza.
That makes it an American political issue.
76% of Democrats think that Israel are committing genocide in Gaza and 75% of them want the funding to stop. That makes it an American political issue.
And many Americans won’t vote for politicians or political parties that vow to continue funding the genocide in Gaza. Because, to use your WWII analogy, imagine if instead of fighting Germany in WWII, America funded them instead. Could you bring yourself to vote for a political party that was actively funding and supporting the Holocaust?
So that brings us back to your “really important cause”, the one that you have “no plans on walking away from”. I’d put it to you that your priorities are all wrong. Instead of shaking hands with the anti-trans-bigots you should be aligning with the people that want the genocide in Gaza to end. Push the Democrats to pledge to stop funding the genocide if they get into power and I think you will get more votes than you will if you spend time with bigots.
One group want the killings to stop. The other group: the ones that you want to shake hands with, want trans people gone from society. Why would you waste your efforts courting the latter?
And Russia did just that. But there was a real difference between the Russia and the Nazis, they had different motives and goals. I don’t actually think there’s any light between modern Nazis and modern Klan in the US. It’s the same people with the same goals and the same motives. It’s mostly the same people, to even.
And that didn’t work out real well for the people in the area that Russia did take. Why do you think that we’d wind up in the position of the unoccupied 1945 USA, instead of the position of occupied Hungary, say, or of the people Stalin murdered in the USSR?