I Pit Sunrazor

Look, you insipid asshat, sexual assualt isn’t a matter for parental attention alone. When a fucking crime has been commited, fucker, the police come into play. And to suggest, you insipid moronic bastard, that the daughter implicitly asked for it?

Fuck You. You Go To Hell. And Die.

Teenagers, asshole, should know not to attemt to force eight-year-old girls to perform fellatio. Got it? And even if a hypothetical teenager was solicited for fellatio with an eight-year-old provider? Guess what, fucker? It’s still illegal, and any teenager raised by reasonable parents would know to not trade oral sex with eight-year-olds.

It’s bad enough that you even floated the idea. But then you claim to support the Mother and Alleged Victim, all the while implying that the Daughter asked for it. You also slammed the mother over her medication. Know what, fuckwit? With many parents, that day would have involved some number of dead or damaged parents and teenagers. Mom showed restarint, and did not damage Daughter with an excessive reaction.

So, Sunrazor, a hearty Fuck You!

Does this “parents handle it” model work for any and all juvenile crime? Or is it only in play when you think Mama is druggy and Daughter is asking for it?

The problem with “parents handle it,” fuckwad, is that thedue process is required, and that, if guilty, the offenders get handled correctly, and the victim learns that what happened was wrong. It also gives the offenders a chance to fix their shit, so that we don’t see these predators and hooligans doing adult crime later.

Asshole

A link would be helpful so we know what you’re babbling about.

This post , in this thread.

I was about to agree with Sunrazor, until I read the OP.

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I’m not even done reading it yet. Hold on, I’ll be right back.

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That was a totally dickwad thing Sunrazor said. Small children being forced to perform fellatio is a serious crime by anyone’s standard, and as was pointed out in that thread, not reporting it to the police is also a crime!

Frankly, I think a mom taking some medication to calm her down under the circumstances is entirely appropriate. Hell, I was sexually assaulted when I was 19, and I spent about a week zombified by drugs in order to help me deal with everything, as did my mother. It’s not just something you can blow off easily. It is a serious violation of a woman, and when it’s just a child? It’s even more horrifying.

Sunrazor was full of shit, and won’t admit it. And he then backpedaled and said she should have gone to her family for support, not friends on a message board. Guess what, fuckhead? She pointed out that was sexually abused herself as a child and wasn’t believed when she told – why should she trust her family in a situation like this, when her experience was the exact opposite? Who is Sunrazor to decide for someone else where the best emotional support should come from?

First I was enraged over the assault on norinew’s daughter. I’ve met the little girl, and she is a total sweetheart. I am nothing but proud of norinew’s response to the situation. But then I became even more enraged over Sunrazor attacking both the mother and the child. Guess what, asswipe? Victims and families are not responsible for the behavior of their attackers! If you’ve really seen as much as you claim you have, you of all people should know this!

I wasn’t going to pit him myself, since I got the impression that it wasn’t what norinew would want. But since this is here now…

You know, I was expecting a couple of people to show up and doubt mudgirl’s account. I was even expecting a couple of people to quibble over the proper punishment for such young perpetrators. But to DISMISS the SEXUAL ASSULT of an 8 YEAR OLD as not being VERY IMPORTANT is assholeishness of such breathtaking scope as to stun and shock me in a way I no longer thought I was capable of on the Internet.

Not to mention the attempt to make this about norinew taking a half of a prescribed Xanex in order to calm herself down, after her daughter was violated and she had the self restraint not to go cave their heads in with a brick. Fuck you, Sunrazor.

I don’t doubt that Sunrazor was wrong- the police absolutely should have been called and this needs to be dealt with in the justice system, but really, why all the rage? So some fuckwit somewhere said something you don’t agree with. Hey, people, it’s not like he’s norinew’s puppeteer. I’m pretty sure she’s still going to go ahead and do the right thing. I just don’t get why so many panties get twisted when someone doesn’t share the popular view. So fucking what. It’s one guy that you will most likely never even meet. His unpopular sentiment was hardly worth a whole pit thread. Meh. I do hope norinew and her daughter get through this relatively painlessly.

It’s a Straight Dope tradition. Whenever children are involved, shit hits the fan.

(For the record, I agree that Sunrazor was wrong. Don’t hurt me)

I think it’s pretty offensive to tell the mother of an 8-year old sexual assault victim that she “overreacted” by calling the cops. I think that falls within the parameters of “being a jerk,” especially when the assault just happened yesterday.

My own opinion in reading that OP, was that she was remarkably restrained in her reaction. I have an 8-year-old daughter, I have a temper sometimes and if that were to happen to one of my little girls, I would probably go to jail and jeopardize my own case by beating those little shits to a pulp right there on the lawn. I can only guess that sunrazor does not have children.

I don’t think he was being a jerk as understood in the rules of this board. He had a different opinion than most, which may cause some to look at him as a jerk, but that’s not really the same.

You see this type of thread over and over- where everyone and their brother comes marching in with pitchforks and torches whenever someone says something unpopular. I can almost hear the frantic chants, “Kill him!” It’s kind of nutty to me- I always think that if I’m truly in the right, then it doesn’t really matter what someone else that doesn’t even know me thinks. I guess it’s human nature to rush in to defend the “right” kind of thinking, but I think we go too far sometimes.

Out of all the currently-running Pit threads, THIS is the one you choose to call out as an example of unPitworthiness? This one? REALLY?

Sunrazor was being a complete and utter horse’s ass in that thread, and the last I checked, it was considered appropriate to start Pit threads about people who are being complete and utter horse’s asses. I’m sure norinew will do the right thing regardless of whether some asswipe tells her she’s overreacting or not. That doesn’t make the asswipe any less of an asswipe.

One reason I got enraged at Sunrazor was because I’ve met the child in question, and to think of someone saying something so appalling about such a sweet child was beyond horrifying.

Also, it’s people who insist that “boys will be boys” who let boys get away with a whole lot of crap towards women even to this day. There’s just too much “blame anybody but the perpetrators” still going around.

And suggesting that saying the parent should violate the law by not reporting a sexual assault on a child, and that the boys who did the blatantly illegal sexual assault on a child should get away with a hand slap, if that, is just “expressing a different opinion”? Sorry, it goes far beyond that, into being a deliberate jerk and asshole to a distraught parent territory.

Oh, and let’s be clear here: the “different opinion” that poor Sunrazor is being pitchforked about is that it is no big deal if teenaged boys force an 8-year-old child to perform oral sex on them.

You can call that a “different opinion” if you like; I’m going to call it fucked up and wrong.

Okay, then, twist away, that’s fine. Doesn’t make me any less :dubious: over the whole thing.

If telling a mother she’s wrong to call the police when her child gets raped* is not being a jerk, then what the fuck do you think it takes to be a jerk?

*Yeah, I’ll call it rape. Forced oral sex is rape as far as I’m concerned.

All I am saying is, this is a message board. If you want to make the world a better place with your righteous outrage and bring about a change with regard to women and respect and all, start in your own house. Then move on to your street, your neighborhood, your kids’ schools… those are things that you can do in real life to express your intolerance for the sexual abuse of children. Ranting at some dude thousands of miles away because he doesn’t think the same as the rest of us (yes, I agree with the majority on the situation) doesn’t help anybody. I bet if you ask norinew, it doesn’t even make her feel better.

What exactly are you fucking dubious about? Would you call the police if two guys forced you to suck their cocks in a parking lot? How would you feel if you were told you were “overreacting?” How much worse is it to trivialize an assault on an 8-year-old girl like that?

Nobody thinks it “makes the world a better place,” you cow. But upbraiding behavior like that might make the board a better place. That’s what threads like this are about. Not “changing the world,” but just trying to police the behavior in our tiny corner of it.

“Cow”?? Gasp!

Heh. I don’t really care what you think about my opinion, Dio. Nowhere did I say it was okay to rape an 8 year-old or that anyone except you lynchers were overreacting. Once again, I do not advocate the rape of children. I just don’t advocate the “angry mob” style of message boarding.

P.S. I’m going to bed. You will have to burn me at the stake tomorrow.

What are we overeacting to? What kind of post do you think should warrant a little negative feedback? Should any behavior ever be pitted or should it just be a free-for-all? I don’t understand at all where the fuck you’re coming from.

Once again, this kind of thread is to complain about behaviors within this online community, ok? It’s not an activist movement to save the world. It’s no different than telling somebody they’re being a dick at a party. Your condescension in this thread is off the mark and poorly calculated. You should have chosen a different thread.