If anyone needed further evidence of the depraved depths of GOP malice, we see it in recent news. We’ve got right-wing blowhards chastising Obama for planning war without Congressional approval. (The Brickhead himself, frontrunner for Snidest Blowhard at SDMB, even started a thread accusing the President of hypocrisy.) But OTOH, other right-wing blowhards tack the other way and chastise Obama for seeking Congressional approval.
Predictable.
But outdoing himself for stupidity is SDMB’s very own Terr
In a single post we see that the guy really is a clinical imbecile (in what alternate world would Obama ask for permission and then act without it?) and that, like so many anti-Americans of his peculiar stench, hypocrisy is almost a byword: He expects GOP Congressmen to vote, not according to America’s interests, but whichever way is best for embarrassing the black-skinned President.
Upthread I apologized for Pitting this imbecile – several Dopers are even stupider. I retract the apology.
I’m not sure you read my thread, if that was your take-away.
In that thread, I argue that Obama is correct, today, to that extent he argues that he has the legal power to order a Syrian attack without Congressional approval.
I acknowledge that this is inconsistent with his position in 2007. But since he’s right now, and wrong then, I said:
Can you explain how that thread is fairly described as “accusing the President of hypocrisy?”
If accusing him of contradicting himself isn’t an accusation of hypocrisy, perhaps we’re using different dictionaries.
If you had wanted to speak complimentarily about the President you could have done so easily. Instead you were your usual snide self, trying to get his goat on a Gotcha.
We will stipulate, Counselor, that you have a 20-point IQ advantage over Terr and his ilk, and that you use that advantage in your smug presentations, always preserving deniability. But even when agreeing with Obama you have to yank his chain like a loathsome GOP partisan.
BTW, did you ever decide how you feel about Karl Rove and his tactics?
Hypocrisy means: “feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not…” It is not simply changing of position. A person who holds a position in good faith, and then learns additional facts or arguments which support a change in that position, is not a hypocrite for changing his mind. Hypocrisy requires the feigning of a good-faith belief, or the adoption of simultaneous contradictory positions such that, in good faith, both cannot be correct.
I’ve linked to my dictionary. Since you suggested that your view of the word was also dictionary-based, can you link to the dictionary definition that supports your view that hypocrisy is simply contradicting oneself?
And if, as you say, that’s all that’s needed, would you say Obama is a hypocrite for his position on same-sex marriage? I wouldn’t – in my view Obama held a position in good faith, and then was exposed to new arguments and facts, and changed his position. That is, by my dictionary, not hypocrisy. For the matter, Obama’s 2007 words about Presidential attack authority do directly contradict recent suggestions that he has the unilateral authority to bomb Syria. I can’t imagine you dispute that. So is Obama a hypocrite? No, says my dictionary, he changed his mind.
No. Although you do mention “snide,” you clearly say that I started a thread accusing the President of hypocrisy. So “snide” may have been the objection in your mind, but the one you typed out in your post was “hypocrisy.”
I never liked any Rove tactics that involved dishonesty.
Ferchrissakes, if there’s any snidery in there, it’s mighty faint, and it’s in the service of a bigger point. People are allowed to dislike the president, and they’re even allowed to get snide about it, if they want. Bricker’s overall point–even if I disagree with it–isn’t at all snide, nor is it an accusation of hypocrisy.
Do you know what’s even more stupid? Getting yourself so wound up about the words of a stanger on a computer screen you then spend hours writing a rant, then engage in hours more checking, checking, checking to see what other people have responded with, and then spending more hours responding to that. Just because of something you saw on a computer screen.
