Odd that he’s changed his story. Wonder if that was planned, to incite more fear and/or spread a smokescreen? Shocking if true, though.
At a top level, of course, my definition of terrorism - unlike your definition (despite your camouflage) doesn’t include “must be someone of a certain religion in order to bootstrap merely inspirational relations into a grand system” [as that is simply bigotry, albeit disguised] . That was clear on day one. And why at my time of posting every respectable non-bigot commentator was calling this terrorism - at my time of posting.
But of course our American bigots love to play the gerrymandering game.
Leaving aside the items that came to light or are coming to light, the clear reasons to not be mealy-mouthed ideologue and call a spade a spade (as you were so very ready to do with the American soldier, Nidal Hasan) were political and intended to use the act of mass killing (targeted against perceived enemies), to achieve a perceived political result. All that was evident days ago. If Nidal Hasan was a terrorist (which you assert), then by a non-ideological judgement, as of date of posting, this event was clearly terrorism - it simply came from a source to which you are more than evidently ideologically sympathetic to. Thus I named and name you a weaseling bigotted scumbag, the sort of person that brings discredit on proper centre right politics.
Of course now we are seeing that this person was contaminated by the extremist bigotry coming out of the USA.
Gerrymandering means to redraw the lines of legislative districts for political gain. Is that really the word you meant here?
Yes, and you are an intellectual and emotional cunt for the fact that the word “thankful” could enter your mind over something like this.
Let me repeat that: cunt.
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No. The similarities between those two are shared with many thousands of men.
I mean, I know these white people all look alike, but if you look closely you can tell them apart. 
Assange’s face is more rounded and Breivik’s forehead taller and jaw angle stronger, for example. Similar nasal dorsums, perhaps.
I think you’ve got that wrong, colonial. As I read it, MightyGirl wasn’t in any way thankful for any part of this horrific tragedy having occurred, which would indeed be appalling and shocking.
Rather, what she was thankful for was the fact that, given that such a horrific tragedy did occur, at least the ethnic identity of the perpetrator didn’t fall into a category that would automatically inflame many of the victims and those sympathetic to them with reflexive xenophobic hatred.
It’s not being a horrible person to be able to feel simultaneously that a certain tragic event is horrific and devastating and also that you’re thankful it was no worse than it was. And I think there’s no question, human nature being what it is, that cultural and ethnic antagonisms can make even terrorist massacres worse than they would otherwise be.
You know as well as MightyGirl and I do that if, say, an Uighur terrorist had slaughtered scores of Norwegians, many people (in Norway and elsewhere) would consider that a reason to hate and despise Uighurs in general. However, no Norwegian or anybody else is going to start hating and despising all Norwegians because a Norwegian slaughtered scores of Norwegians. Yes, that fact, as trivial as it is in comparison to the enormity of the tragedy itself, is indeed something to be thankful for.
You’re a little light on the reasoning to support your view. Instead you try to shoot holes in mine by name calling and a fantastical characterization of my motivations. It must be nice being such a lightweight…probably able to eat anything you want.
And if you were able to read, you’ll see that I gave reasons why Nadal was a terrorist. Try addressing those and leave aside the infatuation you have for what makes me tick. You know, like the big boys do when they debate.
How’s that sound, punk?
Your reasoning was: “he committed those crimes as an instrument of Muslim Extremists writ large. It was part of an ongoing campaign of terror.” I fail to see the distinction you’re making.
Very classy of you.
There are many things to be thankful even at the worst of times. For example I am very happy that the death count has been amended to reflect less victims. I am happy that the police grabbed him in one piece before he offed himself or he was shot. I am happy the destruction and death wasn’t worse in Oslo. I am happy the Norwegians have reacted with humanity and measure.
It is perfectly normal to be relieved that things are not much worse, even when they are really, really bad.
The fact that you reacted with such (fake?) indignation means that you either have a comprehension problem or you are an idiot. I will let you choose.
I shouldn’t think so, you’re rather very heavy on smoke blowing to disguise yours.
As in:
Yes, I saw vague assertions of connexions - not without connexion to your “wariness” about Muslims… - and nothing of substance. In fact, one sees nothing of substance in difference other than religion and a curious correspondence in the second instance between your views on certain religions, and immigration.
Sounds found my dear slimy bigot, sounds fine indeed.
Apparently, there are others sharing your beliefs. Of course, most Europeans regard this as more than just a tad tasteless, and I just wonder if you really feel comfortable sharing the views of a person like Glenn Beck.
It’s how I became a Teen Aged Republican during the Nixon administration. The road to Hell is paved with “You see, there was this girl…”
Now this I don’t understand. Not only are a bunch of people killed but their relatives will now have to support this guy for years in jail and listen to his rantings the whole time.
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You are right. My comparisons of this group to the Hitler Youth were exactly like Beck’s.
If I thought the Autobahn was a good idea would you assume I love Hitler, too?
If I must repeat myself again. My objection, such as it was, was in regards to kids being indoctrinated into a particular political philosophy. I DON"T CARE IF THE GROUP IS ON THE LEFT OR RIGHT, it skeeves me either way.
What’s raising eyebrows here is that you seem to have such a broad definition of “indoctrination”. We’re talking about a bunch of late-adolescent near-adults voluntarily attending a summer-camp program with civics/politics-themed activities, not Hare Krishna or the Moonies or something.
Do similar programs like the College Republicans’ or Young America’s Foundation summer conferences for high school and college students similarly skeeve you? Do you object to that kind of “indoctrination”?
If so, then I certainly acquit you of partisan bias, but I still think you could stand to dial down the calibration of your skeeve-o-meter just a tad.
Cut her some slack. It’s understandable. I recall a Richard Pryor routine, whenever he hears about a crime on the news . . . "Please let him be white . . . Please let him be white . . . Oh, maaaannn!" And then at work the next day – “Hey, Rich, did you know Jamal Washington?” Like there’s only ten AAs in the city . . .
:dubious: I suppose kids never get politically indoctrinated in your country?
That Beck, he never fails to disappoint . . .
I do not need lessons from anyone on reading comprehension and inference.
In the West no consequence to public opinion because of terrorism has ever
been remotely as bad as the terrorism itself.
Anti-Western Terrorist attacks have been taking place for decades and there
is no evidence “reflexive xenophobic hatred” has increased because of it,
despite rising numbers of attacks and victims.
Most importantly, there has been almost no retaliation against innocent people
because of the attacks.
All that is a matter of historical record which should be obvious to anyone,
even the not particularly well-informed. Therefore that ignorant little Mighty_Girl slut
should have known better than to entertain the idea of thankfulness, and
the same goes for you, you asshole.
I disagree completely.
I am sure there would be few rather than your “many” who are not already bigots
who would become bigots, and of them almost none would ever react violently.
This excuse is not available here because the threat of worse consequence
is imaginary, as I have explained above.
In the West no consequence to public opinion because of terrorism has ever
been remotely as bad as the terrorism itself.
As a matter of fact neurotic and groundless self-hated will probably increase
as a result of this awful crime.
So you yourself admit that this imainary consequence would be *trivial *
if it were true. Trivial?- do you know what the word means?
To feel thanks for a trivial consequnce of 80 innocent people being murdered
is exacly as I characterized it in my post #164.